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acasabia
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Posted Sat Feb 15, 2014, 9:16pm
Subject: Re: Why all the Breville Bashing?
 

This is a dangerous thread lol. The BDB is a pretty machine with some awesome feature but its designed as a commodity appliance, not a "machine."

My reasoning:
  • Breville does not want you repairing your own machine, not that you should have to, but I ike knowing I can if I need to. Imagine not having access to your $1k machine while it sits in a warehouse pending factory repair? Imagine the hassle of sending it in?
  • Plastic plastic plastic, look inside a rocket, a rancillio, a NS, or expobar. the only plastic is the water reservoir and the intake tubes. Everything else (excluding electronics) is copper, brass, and steel.
  • History. Breville's previous machines were your typical big box store cheap plastic 1yr machines. While Breville has come a long way from there, I wouldnt through $1k at them so readily.
  • Size. The breville boilers are small. They have an interesting set up, but the more traditional machines have a bigger punch to them.

The BDB offers unparalleled control and style in its price range, but falls short on size, and user serviceability. Its use of cheap plastic components and assembly in china make it a commodity product that some doubt will last as long as more traditional machine.


If I had the kind of income where I didnt have to worry about fixing a broken product like that, I would love to own one. The BDB is a very nice looking machine with more features than its older cousins. However, as a broke student, I need to know that if necessary I can run to the local plumbing supply and fix a valve for under $10.

Their one touch tea maker is awesome though!
Fun fact: I recently learned the breville is marketed as "sage," in the UK. Weird :D

 
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Posted Sun Feb 16, 2014, 12:28am
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Profuse use of plastic in their products.
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Posted Sun Feb 16, 2014, 9:00am
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I think that about covers it.

 
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Posted Sun Feb 16, 2014, 10:55am
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You could be one of the lucky ones?

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Posted Sun Feb 16, 2014, 11:06am
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ROFL

 
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Posted Sun Feb 16, 2014, 12:25pm
Subject: Re: Why all the Breville Bashing?
 

Iluvdabean Said:

You could be one of the lucky ones?

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Everyone did such a good job, there was nothing to add :D. ;<P

 
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Posted Sun Feb 16, 2014, 1:14pm
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I purchased a Breville a couple of years ago and it lasted just over a year.  It just stopped doing anything when I hit the button. I joined coffee geek to try to get more information on different brands before wasting hundred of dollars again. I'm no expert but I'll never buy a Breville again. The espresso wasn't even very good.
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Posted Sun Feb 16, 2014, 1:47pm
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ilovekittycats Said:

I purchased a Breville a couple of years ago and it lasted just over a year.  It just stopped doing anything when I hit the button. I joined coffee geek to try to get more information on different brands before wasting hundred of dollars again. I'm no expert but I'll never buy a Breville again. The espresso wasn't even very good.

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Posted Sun Feb 16, 2014, 1:49pm
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I would love there to be more choice at the 1k mark.  I hope they do sell enough of them to make the other manufacturers take notice and upgrade their same price point machines that they have not bothered to redesign/change/upgrade in years.

 
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Posted Sun Feb 16, 2014, 3:28pm
Subject: Re: Why all the Breville Bashing?
 

First one I bought was brand new still in the box, an 830. Brought it home, hooked it up, filled it up and tried to make my first cup. It was seriously disgusting. For the next 2 days I fiddled with it thinking it was me, it would absolutely not produce any crema whatsoever, it had pressure issues... So I emailed breville, they wound up exchanging it for an infuser since the 830 was discontinued. Since then I've been drinking some of the best espresso I've ever had. Even better than the 3 coffee shops I've been to around here. Granted once warranty is up I'll be scared to death of it, but maybe it'll break down before that so I can keep a fresh one here. And just an FYI, for my warranty exchange, they sent me a prepaid fedex label, once they seen mine was accepted by FedEx, they put the new one out for delivery, so I was only out of a machine for 2 days.

And fwiw, I'd have a la pavoni lever machine if I could find one for a decent price.
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