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bossman
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Posted Tue Mar 11, 2014, 8:48pm
Subject: I think I am going with the Vetrano 2b- Maybe...
 

After watching hours and hours of videos, reading reviews and forums I think I am going to go with the V2B.  I flirted with buying the used Vivaldi 2, but decided being my first real machine I wanted vendor support behind it.  Since I really fell for the Vivaldi I though I would go that route, but that would mean either plumbing in now, which I really don't want to do because I will be putting in a coffee bar this summer and don't want to plumb it on the kitchen counter or going the mini s2 route, but then there is no option for plumbing.  The other issue with the Vivaldi's are the 53mm PF.  

I already have a kick butt brass handled 58.35 tamper, 20g VST basket and OE dosing funnel.  Not a huge deal, but it was enough to tip it back to a 58mm machine.  I love the look of the E61 machines and since I fell in love with the capabilities of the dual boiler I didn't want to drop back down to HX.  In my price range I think the V2B is the way to go.  Large tank and option to plumb later, PIDs on both boilers and the ability to shut off the steam boiler to save energy.  Can the V2b be run with an external timer?  Otherwise I will just leave it on and only turn on the steam boiler which should not take long to heat up when needed.  Chris' Coffee offered me a great deal and I think I will be ordering on Friday.  That will give me a few days to think about it, its a pretty big purchase for me.  I sold my old dirt bike on Monday so I threw that money in the pot to get a nicer machine, one I will not feel the need to upgrade I hope for years.

Edit:  This is too hard, I thought I was decided but then realized I could be waiting a month for the V2B.  Now I am looking at the Alex Duetto 3.  I have spent more time choosing an espresso machine then my last 3 cars....
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sharky
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Posted Wed Mar 12, 2014, 2:55am
Subject: Re: I think I am going with the Vetrano 2b
 

Great choice, bossman!  I've had the Vetrano 2B for over 4 months now, and I love it!  It is a great machine and looks beautiful!  Yes, you can use an external timer!  Congratulations!

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Posted Wed Mar 12, 2014, 8:45am
Subject: Re: I think I am going with the Vetrano 2b
 

As I just said in another thread, there is no perfect machine, what is best for one person may not even be on someone else's list!

Neither a DB or HX is "better or above the other" they are just different. Both put out great shots and both require operator skill to make them shine.


There really is not much of an energy savings with one boiler off on a DB vs just running a HX and remember, both machines require a flush.

Congrats on making a choice, that is the hard part .

 
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gregdreg
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Posted Wed Mar 12, 2014, 10:21am
Subject: Re: I think I am going with the Vetrano 2b
 

I pre-ordered one from CCS last month. I did a lot of research before deciding on the V2B, I think you will be happy with this choice. CCS is offering a $100 gift certificate on the V2B right now and you will get around $46 in rewards points too.
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bossman
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Posted Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:03am
Subject: Re: I think I am going with the Vetrano 2b
 

calblacksmith Said:

As I just said in another thread, there is no perfect machine, what is best for one person may not even be on someone else's list!

Neither a DB or HX is "better or above the other" they are just different. Both put out great shots and both require operator skill to make them shine.


There really is not much of an energy savings with one boiler off on a DB vs just running a HX and remember, both machines require a flush.

Congrats on making a choice, that is the hard part .

Posted March 12, 2014 link

Yes, I know there is a big debate on whether DB is better then HX.  I have no experience with either one, I just know that it sounds like the DB makes it easier to get consistent results.  For a noobie like me that is very important.  I have no doubt I would have been fine with an HX as well, I just think I would be less likely a year down the road to wonder if I should have went with an HX then the other way around.

Then again, I am a car guy that much prefers a manual to an automatic lol, so I guess we will see.
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Posted Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:28am
Subject: Re: I think I am going with the Vetrano 2b
 

Doh!  Talked to them again and they are hoping the shipment will be here the last week in March.  The website said around Mid-March.  That is a long time to be without any espresso!  The short time I had the CC1 spoiled me. :(
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Posted Wed Mar 12, 2014, 12:30pm
Subject: Re: I think I am going with the Vetrano 2b
 

Was eyeing the V2B as next upgrade, but the Profitec 700 caught me eye.
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bossman
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Posted Wed Mar 12, 2014, 1:31pm
Subject: Re: I think I am going with the Vetrano 2b
 

That is very intriguing, but I don't see it on any American sites yet.  The post on it where I think the maker posted listed wholelattelove as a distributor but it is not on their website yet.
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Posted Wed Mar 12, 2014, 1:54pm
Subject: Re: I think I am going with the Vetrano 2b
 

bossman Said:

After watching hours and hours of videos, reading reviews and forums I think I am going to go with the V2B.

Posted March 11, 2014 link

GRRRReat choice!!!!  Paired up with a good GRRRRinder the V2B gives a nice platform to GRRRRow into. If I had to choose, personally I GRRRRavitate to the mini vII, NON plumbed version, but it is still a tough choice.
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DeanOK
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Posted Wed Mar 12, 2014, 5:28pm
Subject: Re: I think I am going with the Vetrano 2b
 

The best thing you can say about the V2B is that it makes great shots and that is really what your after. It's a nice machine, particularly if you like the traditional stainless look.

I have a friend that tells everyone that the best espresso in town comes from my house... that is a pretty nice thing to hear if your goal is to make good espresso. BTW, its a small town but still proud of the compliment (about 30,000 population).

EDIT: BTW, there is some shops in town with very expensive machines.... I am sure the machines are capable of making good espresso, but not sure the Barista's working in some of these places have the skill or passion (you need both).
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