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dingo1799
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Posted Sat Mar 29, 2014, 8:54am
Subject: Silvia has water underneath drip tray?
 

So i decided that in a moment of lack of sleep and caffeine that i needed an espresso machine at work. I messed around for a while looking here and there, on ebay and cl trying to decide, or more to the point "find a deal" i decided on a silvia. Found a V3 in Madison WI and managed to pick it up for $380 shipped. After using 6 packets of dezcal in 2 sittings, 1/4 jar of joe glo, and running about 50 gallons of water through it, seems none the worse for wear, and makes a nice cup of espresso to boot. The water tank had scale in it almost the thickness of a credit card. I cant imagine, and dont want to imagine what the boiler looked like.

40-50 double shots in the last 48 hrs, took it to work with me last couple of nights and fed everyone at work espresso to get a feel for it, and make sure it isnt going to break on me, and dial in a new to me vario w (cheers, bossman!)

One thing i noticed from the start, the 3 way valve's aim is a little off. I was finding water under the drip tray, no leaks, just seemed to blow out all over under there. 98% of my tools are at work, so home engineering is somewhat of a necessity for a day or until I can remember to drag equipment home from work. I split a 30ml ecig juice bottle (ldpe so it's very flexible) down the middle, fitted it upside down (to where the top threaded part of the bottle is facing down towards the drip tray) and fastened it with a couple small zip ties, making it somewhat of a open funnel. Bingo. No more water under the drip tray!

So far, ordered is a 58mm back flush basket, 58mm rattleware tamper, a espressoparts hq ridgeless double basket, extra group head gasket (seen cafelat has a silicone gasket, do these fit a silvia?) some shot glasses

Really looking into insulating the boiler to help stabilize the temp, and possibly even a PID kit because i cant leave anything alone and love tweaking.

It should have a naked pf by the end of the weekend (because i love tweaking and can't leave anything alone)

As a former breville infuser owner, both machines have good and bad points.
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Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A.
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
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Posted Sun Mar 30, 2014, 4:17am
Subject: Re: Silvia has water underneath drip tray?
 

Welcome to the "dark side" :D

A PID will be of MUCH more value than insulating the boiler. I bought a VERY used Sylvia just to fool with and to rebuild for work, it eventually wound up at home for vacation use but that is a different story.

I can tell you first hand that the PID makes it a different machine, still a wait between brewing and steaming for sure but the brew temp is much MUCH more stable, there is no comparing the two, completely different machines. Insulating the boiler, not so much, perhaps a slight difference  but not enough to go through the bother in MHO!

 
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bossman
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Espresso: Mini Vivladi II
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Posted Sun Mar 30, 2014, 8:29am
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Awesome, glad you are liking the Vario-W!
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dingo1799
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Joined: 17 Jan 2014
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Location: Stlmo
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Couple of broken pavoni...
Grinder: Vario W
Vac Pot: Cory DRU/DRL
Drip: Nah
Roaster: Nah
Posted Sun Mar 30, 2014, 3:01pm
Subject: Re: Silvia has water underneath drip tray?
 

calblacksmith Said:

Welcome to the "dark side" :D

A PID will be of MUCH more value than insulating the boiler. I bought a VERY used Sylvia just to fool with and to rebuild for work, it eventually wound up at home for vacation use but that is a different story.

I can tell you first hand that the PID makes it a different machine, still a wait between brewing and steaming for sure but the brew temp is much MUCH more stable, there is no comparing the two, completely different machines. Insulating the boiler, not so much, perhaps a slight difference  but not enough to go through the bother in MHO!

Posted March 30, 2014 link

for what the PID kit costs, it had better make it a completely different machine. did you insulate your boiler?
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dingo1799
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Joined: 17 Jan 2014
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Location: Stlmo
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Couple of broken pavoni...
Grinder: Vario W
Vac Pot: Cory DRU/DRL
Drip: Nah
Roaster: Nah
Posted Mon Mar 31, 2014, 12:13am
Subject: Re: Silvia has water underneath drip tray?
 

I decided to take the back cover off and add some noise dampening insulation to the inside of the water tank plate and back body piece, and while it was apart try to get a look inside the boiler with the borescope. Borescope is a bust, it wont fit into the steam pipe fitting coming out of the boiler...

What I did notice, the wires for the pump power had been rubbing on the chassis and braided steel line coming off the pump. The white wire coming off the pump had to have been close to bare wire. Some zip ties and convoluted tubing should keep anything else from happening to it. Might be a good idea for everyone else to check theirs......

Also noticed one of the pump mounts had slid out of place, a well placed zip tie fixed that too.

The sound deadening insulation was/is a success. SOOOOO much quieter.
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