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Posted Fri Apr 11, 2014, 1:03pm
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Hi All,

I am looking for some help guys.

I am starting my own coffee bike. and I am in the most sensitive part the coffee machine.

I have found Astoria, Divina AEP2 year 2004 with good price with pump and filter (the guy that is selling the machine doesn't know anything about coffee machines).

I don't know if the Astoria, Divina AEP2 can work with gas and what sould I know about this machine.

I need help urgently.

Regards

Joseph
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Posted Mon Apr 14, 2014, 8:53am
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Unless a machine was designed from day 1 to operate on gas, it is not economical to convert an electric machine to operate on gas. With any machine that uses an electric pump and electronics inside the machine, it will require electric power. That is not a good machine to try to run on a "bike". Look for a lever operated, gas heated machine.

 
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Posted Mon Apr 14, 2014, 9:14pm
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All fullsize commercial Astoria machines can be converted to run on LP or Natural gas. The cost of the conversion kit exclusive of labour is $500USD. Unfortunately, as Wayne points out, the only machines that can be run exclusively on gas without shore power are the lever-operated machines. Machines with conventional groups require a pump and motor to deliver brew water at the correct pressure as well as solenoid valves to properly direct brew water to the coffee pucks and divert residual pressure after delivery to the drains. The Divina AEP will not meet your needs unless you plan to run a gas generator on your coffee bike. Good luck
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Posted Mon Apr 14, 2014, 10:55pm
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Thanks guys for your replies.
I will take on consideration your opinion.
I will look for 2 group lever machine gas heated to run on my bike.
I am not planning to run gas generator neither fuel generator, I am planning to have inverter for the grinder, refrigerator..., and I will use solar panels as well to help increase the autonomy of the batteries.
I have another question: do I need an external pump for lever machine. to pump the water from the tank to the machine?
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Posted Mon Apr 14, 2014, 11:25pm
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What do you think about this ITALCREM.

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Posted Tue Apr 15, 2014, 6:40am
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I'm not directly familiar with that model but if it is in verifiably good condition and is equipped with a properly adjusted gas burner you will only need a water boost system to run it. The most popular is the Flojet bottled water dispenser, which uses large bulk water bottles as used on office coolers. You can plumb an accumulator or small pressure tank to provide makeup water during short periods of high demand. The Flojet comes in 110V, 220V and 12VDC models. Shurflo is another modular water boost system that is popular, though more expensive. Good luck
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