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D4F
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Posted Thu Apr 17, 2014, 1:04pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia (2006 model) problem.
 

Try this

http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=contact_us

or

sales@auberins.com

 
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Posted Sun Apr 20, 2014, 8:23am
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia (2006 model) problem.
 

Ok so i reread all responses (thanks to all)

and the way I figure it out is that both RTD would be compatible with my current boiler.

The screw-on will be placed where the not needed anymore safety thermostat is screwed in on the side.

Screw On =>  http://i.imgur.com/Cxy7fut.jpg


The flat RTD (which is not as precise) would go in place of the boiler 110F thermostat. (according to installation).

Flat RTD =>  http://i.imgur.com/t6b7NpN.jpg

So i both would work, I would be better taking the one that will give me a more precise reading, the screw-on.

Am I correct ?
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Posted Sun Apr 20, 2014, 12:44pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia (2006 model) problem.
 

The brew (boiler) stat is placed to be where it is practical and effective, as is the safety stat.  Positions are not equally interchangeable.  Place a "brew stat" RTD equivalent where the OEM brew stat was, and that sounds like you will need the clamp on stat.

If you could have simply switched positions, then Auber would have also figured that and sold the screw stat with those instructions  :)

The "less precise" flat stat is way better than the bimetallic that it replaces and probably better than a k thermocouple clamped there.  Many used the K thermocouple before the RTD was available and it served well.  The K thermocouple clamped is place is still adequate, and used in some DIY builds.

 
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Posted Sun Apr 20, 2014, 1:37pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia (2006 model) problem.
 

i guess i could have been clearer in my last post.

when i said i could use either, i was trying to say i could use screw on in place of safety thermostat or use flat one in place of boiler stat.

if i understand correctly, the pid replaces boiler stat and safety stat.
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Posted Sun Apr 20, 2014, 1:48pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia (2006 model) problem.
 

I don't think that the PID affects the use of a safety stat.  Perhaps that is different on Silvia, but If something happened to the PID or SSR, still nice to have the safety stat to shut it all down.  PID replaces the boiler stat and if you use PID steam, then it controls steam temperature.  Safety stat can/should stay, I believe.

You replace only the boiler stat and then just use the PID to set temperature(s) at which it works.

 
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Posted Sun Apr 20, 2014, 4:49pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia (2006 model) problem.
 

D4F Said:

Safety stat can/should stay, I believe.

Posted April 20, 2014 link

Yes! Absolutely DO NOT remove the safety stat. SSR's can and do fail in a closed (conducting) state.  It is crucial that there be a failsafe you can depend on to shut things down if your SSR fails.

Jim
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Posted Sun Apr 20, 2014, 5:06pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia (2006 model) problem.
 

ok i will not remove the safety stat.  so i guess my only option is the flat sensor
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