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Tmodler
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Posted Thu May 1, 2014, 9:54am
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All,
 Newbie here, but hopefully not too dense...

 Read the sticky and lots of good info.  I have been looking for a machine for some time and have found the info here to be invaluable.

 I have found a machine that I am thinking about purchasing, but can find no information on the internet or from calling vendors so I thought I would post here and see if anyone has any review or experience with it.

 According to the current owner, it is a 25 year old machine.  Futurmat Primiera from the photo on the front, model on the serial number plate is listed as a PRIM.  

 Anyone seen or used one?  Thoughts?

Thanks.

Charles

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Posted Tue May 6, 2014, 4:12pm
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Well, looks like the machine will be coming home with me tomorrow.  

Form what I can tell it is a fairly standard solenoid machine, but we will see.

I have a Claris XL set up (thanks to my buddies at Everpure) to feed it water.  I will have to run a new branch circuit into the kitchen for it, but not a big deal, all things considered, breaker box is right under the stairs.

Should be a fun toy to play with.  Now I just need a grinder...

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Posted Tue Jan 13, 2015, 7:50pm
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Not much action  on the machine, or on this thread.

Some details:

The machine has E61 solenoid valves on it.  One clean, one needed a new solenoid valve.  

Should have it operational this weekend to test, then I am taking it to my office to let my guys enjoy it.

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Posted Tue Jan 13, 2015, 8:06pm
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It's a two-group HX assembled in Spain out of Faema components.  In addition to the two semi-automatic groups it appears to have two steam wands, and no water tap. The absence of a tap is typical of entry level machines of the period.

It's probably a perfectly legit and common description, but I don't know what a "solenoid machine" is.  Do you mean that it has three way valves?  Or that it's switch, as opposed to levetta (like an E61 semi-automatic group) activated?  

Whatever the groups are, they're obviously not E61 semis.  The machine reminds me of a stripped E64, but I don't know enough about Faemas to tell for sure by looking at the picture. It could also be some sort of E87 variant.  

Futurmat used to be the Spanish division of Faema. When Faema was bought out by La Cimbali, Futurmat seems to have spun off.  Now it's part of the Quality Espresso Group which includes other Spanish espresso brands like Ottima and Visacrem.  

Since your machine is basically a Faema under the hood, you can expect robust components. The lack of a water tap (assuming things are as they appear) would cramp my style because I use water like crazy -- but we're all "baristas" in our own ways.

Here's a link to Futurmat's site.

Aprovecharla,
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Posted Sat Jan 17, 2015, 5:55pm
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boar_d_laze Said:

Since your machine is basically a Faema under the hood, you can expect robust components. The lack of a water tap (assuming things are as they appear) would cramp my style because I use water like crazy -- but we're all "baristas" in our own ways.

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This machine is headed for the shop floor of a big pressure vessel weld shop, it will live a different life than most...

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Posted Thu Jan 22, 2015, 1:56pm
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boar_d_laze Said:

It's a two-group HX assembled in Spain out of Faema components.  In addition to the two semi-automatic groups it appears to have two steam wands, and no water tap. The absence of a tap is typical of entry level machines of the period.

It's probably a perfectly legit and common description, but I don't know what a "solenoid machine" is.  Do you mean that it has three way valves?  Or that it's switch, as opposed to levetta (like an E61 semi-automatic group) activated?  

Whatever the groups are, they're obviously not E61 semis.  The machine reminds me of a stripped E64, but I don't know enough about Faemas to tell for sure by looking at the picture. It could also be some sort of E87 variant.  

Futurmat used to be the Spanish division of Faema. When Faema was bought out by La Cimbali, Futurmat seems to have spun off.  Now it's part of the Quality Espresso Group which includes other Spanish espresso brands like Ottima and Visacrem.  

Since your machine is basically a Faema under the hood, you can expect robust components. The lack of a water tap (assuming things are as they appear) would cramp my style because I use water like crazy -- but we're all "baristas" in our own ways.

Here's a link to Futurmat's site.

Aprovecharla,
Rich

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I think you are on to something with the E87 variant.  

One wand is water it turns out, so it is pretty capable.

Trying to find a seal kit for the groupheads now.  Haven't found any that match up yet.

Other than that she is pretty much ready to go.

Got the new Procon Prototype pump and controller wired in, so it is just a matter of seals and we are ready.

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