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Tonyv138
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Posted Tue May 27, 2014, 9:16am
Subject: loctite 567 or teflon tape
 

I saw some aspects of this topic has been covered in the past, but could not find a definitive answer.

What is better for espresso brew and or steam boiler fittings - loctite 567 or teflon tape, or perhaps there are better alternatives?
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Posted Tue May 27, 2014, 9:41am
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Loctite every time.  I use 577 which is specified by my espresso machine manufacturer in the maintenance section of the handbook.  I think 567 is very similar but slightly lower shear strength, which shouldn't be an issue in these sorts of application.

Strictly speaking, teflon tape is a thread lubricant, but often used as a thread sealer as it is so often ready to hand and loctite aint.

Both are a bit of a nuisance to clean off if you have to remove the fitting for re-use, and possibly teflon tape is easier.

Provided you fill a few threads with loctite, you can guarantee it will be 100% sealed - no guessing or doubt.
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Posted Tue May 27, 2014, 11:35am
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Not sure if you care about this but 577 is registered NSF Category P1 for use as a sealant where there is no possibility of food contact in and around food processing areas.

I recommend using Loctite Threadlocker 2046, which is food safe and is both a sealant and threadlocker that can be loosened by hand tools.  It is rated to 204C(400F).
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Posted Tue May 27, 2014, 12:10pm
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I tried to find out what does Quick Mill recommend for this application, so far not successfull. Does anyone know?
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Posted Tue May 27, 2014, 12:38pm
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The Loctite food products are generally covered here: Click Here (www.loctite.co.uk) - didn't look any further into it as I usually use PTFE anyway.

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Posted Tue May 27, 2014, 1:13pm
Subject: Re: loctite 567 or teflon tape
 

577 conforms to WRAS/BS6920 so happy to use it as it is also used in the original manufacture of the machine.

Don't think 2046 is marketed where I live, but Loctite have a number of region-specific products to comply with differing local test standards.

As the machine I own was also imported to the US as well, I wonder if they used  a different product for that market ?  Somehow, I doubt it as the same maintenance book covers both 230v and 110v versions of the machine.
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Posted Tue May 27, 2014, 6:54pm
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Blue Monster Plumber tape sold at Lowes, it is a bit thicker than white variety. I cant find the info on this tape, if it is safe to use in steam/brew boilers. I also found Oately MEGATAPE, but also cant find whether it can be use for espresso machines. Or I should just use white type?

BTW, CCS recommended the teflon tape.
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Posted Wed May 28, 2014, 1:41am
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Tonyv138 Said:

BTW, CCS recommended the teflon tape.

Posted May 27, 2014 link

That's because they work on prosumer espresso machines all the time and know what a PITA thread locker is when you are trying to removing a fitting. When I help design espresso machines, I always specify Teflon tape is used wherever possible now. It takes the manufacturer much more time on assembly, but so much better for the customer years down the line.

Would I use threadlocker.....only if I had no other way!!
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