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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2014, 9:45am
Subject: I can't afford a real grinder..help please
 

Hi, I have a DeLonghi EC155 and a Hario mini mill. I heard about the mod to make the 155 unpressurized, but because I can't really afford a Baratza grinder...would I be better off keeping the machine pressurized? I'm worried that I won't be grinding fine enough. Also, is it possible to tamp too hard? My machine tends to choke a lot..Thanks!
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2014, 9:51am
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A pressurized portafilter should only be LIGHTLY tamped just enough to flatten the coffee. Over-tamping with a pressurized portafilter will casue choking.

 
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2014, 9:52am
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Oh okay. but as of right now I have it unpressurized and it keeps choking. I tried tamping lighter but the coffee came out weaker.
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:19am
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hotdoc212 Said:

Oh okay. but as of right now I have it unpressurized and it keeps choking. I tried tamping lighter but the coffee came out weaker.

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Hario Mini can produce a lot of fines, and your pry too fine of a setting anyway hence choking. Back off a click or two, and play with dose to compensate. Example b/c of the wide steps you may find a click or two back will now produce gushers, keep that setting and play with up dosing (though may be hard as the baskets on the Delongi are really small). There's a step-less mod for the Skerton if you search on here, the same could be done for the Mini except I think you needed a different locknut?

That's your only choice right now. What beans are you using? Fresh roasted is best even if using the machine pressurized, store bought crap is stale/nasty. I have a Hario Mini more for traveling for coarse use, I used it when I started on a Bar32 (same as EC155) and played with it on my CC1, it can work, but the shots will spritz a lot etc.... my Preciso is far better.

Don't be surprised if the machine works better pressurized with the Hario vs unpressurized especially if your not using good beans.
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:47am
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Stick to the tamp pressure you find most comfortable and consistent.  I find adjusting the grind is FAR more accurate than trying to adjust my tamp to get a good shot.   Also in my experience, light tamps were terribly inconsistent with the Hario Mini Mill.
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 3:11pm
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If I made a video of my extraction would you guys be willing to point out anything obvious? I really need help. I'm using freshly roasted beans (5 days old as of now) from a local vendor. Thanks
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 3:59pm
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We can see, you don't have a bottomless, but it'll be pretty easy to see by how fast the shot glass fills up and the color of the streams. Upload to Youtube and link here
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