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Posted Mon Aug 23, 2004, 7:46pm
Subject: Fix old DeLonghi or buy new?
 

We have a broken DeLonghi pump espresso maker (Model CE-20F) that's probably about 10 years old. We haven't used it for several years and when I pulled it out today, it would not work. No water will come out of either the brew head or the frothing thing. The water gets hot, the pump makes a significant amount of noise, but nothing comes out. I'm unsure when we last descaled it, but we've never used tap water in any of our coffee appliances. We use a reverse-osmosis filtration system, which removes most solids.

I'm willing to invest $10 to have the service guy look at it. He says we can still get the pump if that's the problem and I'd be looking at somewhere around $100 if it needs a new pump.

Does it seem like I'm throwing good money after bad? We enjoy espresso and espresso-based drinks, but we don't drink them often. I can't really justify spending $300 and up on a new machine.

I'm looking for opinions as to whether I should repair the DeLonghi (if that's an option) or recommendations for a new pump machine that would come in for under $200 (the further under, the better).

Thanks for any advice.

 
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Posted Tue Aug 24, 2004, 7:13am
Subject: Re: Fix old DeLonghi or buy new? - The real post
 

JustJoe Said:

Sorry about the duplicate post. Apparently I can't delete the other one.

I'm willing to invest $10 to have the service guy look at it. He says we can still get the pump if that's the problem and I'd be looking at somewhere around $100 if it needs a new pump.

Thanks for any advice.

Posted August 23, 2004 link

If it's just the pump and you're handy you can probably replace it yourself for about half that price ) I don't know what pump is in that machine). You might also consider getting a used or reconditioned machine like a Gaggia from Ebay or WLL.
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Posted Tue Aug 24, 2004, 9:15pm
Subject: Re: Fix old DeLonghi or buy new?
 

When our pump DeLonghi gave up after about 6 years, I tried taking it apart to see what might be wrong. The (venezia?) model we had was assembled with 2 or 3 deeply recessed tamperproof torx screws.

Without the right star shaped tool with a hole up the center (very uncommon and hard to find), you won't be able to get inside the case.

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Posted Tue Aug 24, 2004, 9:42pm
Subject: Re: Fix old DeLonghi or buy new?
 

I didn't have any trouble getting the top off to expose the inards. The top is just held in place with three plastic tabs (two of which I broke). I didn't have time to test the pump, but I didn't see any signs of blockage or hard water deposits. I'm going to have a tech look at it tomorrow. If he determines that the pump is bad, I'll buy the part and replace it myself.  In the mean time, I'm starting to do some research on machines under $250. Any suggestions?

 
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Posted Tue Aug 24, 2004, 9:49pm
Subject: Re: Fix old DeLonghi or buy new?
 

marrone Said:

When our pump DeLonghi gave up after about 6 years, I tried taking it apart to see what might be wrong. The (venezia?) model we had was assembled with 2 or 3 deeply recessed tamperproof torx screws.

Without the right star shaped tool with a hole up the center (very uncommon and hard to find), you won't be able to get inside the case.

Ted

Posted August 24, 2004 link

Hi Ted,

I have that same machine the DeLonghi Café Venezia. It's called a T-10 Torx Security bit & not at all hard to find really, if ya know where to look. If you go to an automotive parts or tool jobber, Pep Boys, Ace hardware, Home Depot, etc, they have them. Also at flea markets, the guys that sell tools. The tools are crappy, but the bits & drive bits & such are hardened tool steel.

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Posted Tue Aug 24, 2004, 9:50pm
Subject: Re: Fix old DeLonghi or buy new?
 

This is a 9pc Torx Security bit set I picked up at a local shopping mall, a place like the Dollar stores (things for a buck), but he sells just tools. That's $7.99 Canadian too!
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Posted Tue Aug 24, 2004, 10:06pm
Subject: Re: Fix old DeLonghi or buy new?
 

Is this the machine Ted?

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Posted Thu Dec 23, 2004, 12:34am
Subject: Re: Fix old DeLonghi or buy new?
 

Missed this when posted, saw it today.

Yes Craig, that is the exact machine, in much better condition than our old workhorse.

After due consideration, I sprung for a Tea rather than the tool.  

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Posted Thu Dec 23, 2004, 6:24am
Subject: Re: Fix old DeLonghi or buy new?
 

Torx screws/bits are good to  have around

Aside from auto stores, home stores and even walmart/kmart/etc have them in

they're usually come numbered/named T4-T12 in increments of 2

most consumber goods tend to be 8,10,12 -- some small laptop screws are T6

you can usually get away with a jewelers flat screw  for a T4/T6 size item, but they won't work on the T8+
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Posted Thu Dec 23, 2004, 1:24pm
Subject: Re: Fix old DeLonghi or buy new?
 

Lawrence,
Seeing as the machine is 10 years old, maybe you may have a cracked or split line from the pump. Check all rubber lines / hoses. A leak will definitely cause it to stop pumping.
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