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Posted Tue Feb 8, 2005, 10:51am
Subject: Technique question(s)

I'm trying to develop a routine that will conistenly work with dosing/packing/distributing the grinds in my portafilter.  I was hoping to get a few questions answered and some advice if possible on my technique.

What I'm using:

Macap M4 grinder, bottomless portafilter w/ LM double basket, reg barber flat tamper.

What I'm doing:

- After Silvia heats up for about an hour or so, I remove the portafilter (wipe out any moisture if any)
- Begin grinding and dose as it's grinding
- About half way into filling the basket, I tap the PF on the fork a few times to even the grounds out
- Upon filling to a little above the edge, I perform....well, attempt to perform Stockfleth's technique.  I can't find any reference on this besides the video I downloaded, so this might be part of my issue.  I seem to end up with a pile in the middle more often then not from turning my hand.
-  I then use Schomer's method for one pass to clear off any loose grounds.  This issue I have here is the uneveness I see after doing this.  I put a little pressure (per his book) on my finger while doing this, but the ridges and uneveness of my finger translate onto to grounds.  This is also why I've been practicing Stockfleth's technique.  It seems to be a little more even for me.
- I then lightly tamp with a slight twist and tap to clear off the edges and apply a 30-35lb tamp with a 360 polish.
- Temp. surf with Silvia right around 40 seconds and go.

I suppose my biggest flaw right now is the technique I'm using to evenly distribute.  Any detailed help on that or any of the process would be highly appreciated.


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Posted Tue Feb 8, 2005, 12:32pm
Subject: Re: Technique question(s)

You're into nit picking territory now.  You've got a 40 second start to finish product and you're looking to improve hehehe.

2c: This works for me, YMMV
This works on double and tripple baskets.  I cannot get the same result out of a single basket.

Dose until it is 1/8-1/6th inch above the PF,
  • Knock on the forks once, from up to down.  (this should make for just a small amt of what will be filler or waste material on the top of the PF, if it goes below the basket line add enough so you can proceed and note the difference in height for next time.)
  • Do the finger pass left to right, north to south, circular, just even it out with your finger.  If the pressure is light you're not causing uneven-ness.
  • 5lb Tamp
  • Light side knock
  • 30-40lb Tamp & light twist on exit.
  • Lock Load and Extract

The only way I can see you gaining any more time is to losing one method and sticking fully to another.  You're in the zone though :)

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