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Posted Thu Sep 27, 2007, 11:28am
Subject: How long before ground coffee goes stale - experiment
 

For those who wonder if they can "get by" without a grinder for a while until they have the money to buy one.

This morning I ran an experiment:  When grinding for my morning shot I decided to grind 3 shots worth.  This is using 1 week old home blend homeroast.  16 g per double basket. I ran my first shot immediately, within seconds of grinding.  Results 2 oz at 25 seconds.  Flow nice and thick, reasonably dark.  Really no blonding when shot is stopped.  Good shot. Nice and sweet. Great mouthfeel. Flavor lingers for minutes.

Shot #2  1 Hour later.  Again 16 g.  Results 2 oz at 19 seconds.  Pretty serious blonding. Finishing stream looks pretty thin and watery.  Shot still tastes pretty good.  Slightly bitter. Overall still drinkable but with definite decline in quality from 1 hour before.

Shot #3  2 1/2 hours after original grinding.  16 g. Results 2 oz in 12 seconds!!!  Blonding already.  Thin crema disappearing rapidly settling down to probably 1-2 mm by the time the shot is removed from under the spout.  Shot undrinkable.  bitter and sour at the same time?   I don't know. One sip and this one was sink bound.

A couple other details.  The ground coffee was stored in a small ziplock baggie with as much air as possible squeezed out.  I ran each shot at as close to the same point in the temp cycle as possible.

I posted this because I noticed that we spend a lot of time diagnosing problems with shots when the poster is using pre-ground coffee.

 
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Posted Thu Sep 27, 2007, 1:32pm
Subject: Re: How long before ground coffee goes stale - experiment
 

Great experiment.  Thanks for posting that.  It seems to confirm what everyone says, that using preground coffee will always lead to sub-par results.  Fresh ground coffee is the only way to go.
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