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klund
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 12:55pm
Subject: Noob wants to get 90% of the way to great espresso
 

OK,

I have read miles and miles of posts about my machine (Breville Dual Boiler) and espresso making in general. I know there are 37 different factors which need to be in perfect harmony to achieve the perfect shot. But I'm a n00b. I'm not shooting for perfect this week, just a decent espresso.

So here's my question: What are the *biggest* things? Which factors are the ones you have to nail to get 90% of the way there?

I've got another 60 years or so to get to perfect, but I'd like to get to decent before May arrives.

Hopefully I'm making some kind of sense...

 
-- klund

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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 12:59pm
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Grinder
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 1:03pm
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fresh beans

 
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 1:24pm
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Given fresh beans, great grinder (all the people say amen) Get a scale weigh your dose and your extraction.  Read this First and then this Second

 
You know those people that want to tell you how to raise your kids but have none of their own? That is how i feel when someone with a kitchen appliance tells me how the merits or dis-merits of my machine or how to use it.
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 1:47pm
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Just pull shots.  I had a huge improvement after a month of pulling.  I am still not a pro but I am getting more good shots than bad ones.

 
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 1:52pm
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Shot glasses with proper 1 ounce marks, or 1 larger shot glass with a proper 2 ounce mark. Gotta know where your shots are pulling at.
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 1:54pm
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mouth with tongue
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JDHarding
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 1:58pm
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frank828 Said:

mouth with tongue

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LOL.. yeah that's a good start. :D
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klund
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 2:45pm
Subject: Re: Noob wants to get 90% of the way to great espresso
 

jwoodyu Said:

Given fresh beans, great grinder (all the people say amen) Get a scale weigh your dose and your extraction.

Posted April 4, 2012 link

I can do that, although it goes against my tendencies. I tend to measure as little as possible when cooking, relying on what "feels right". Perhaps I will need to channel some of my brother's OCD for this.

 
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klund
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 2:50pm
Subject: Re: Noob wants to get 90% of the way to great espresso
 

D4F Said:

Grinder

Posted April 4, 2012 link

I've got the Breville Smart Grinder, which I understand is not the best, but has many supporters who say it is great. I'm hoping that it will work for me.

Coffeenoobie Said:

fresh beans

Posted April 4, 2012 link

I realize now that I'm in a fresh coffee bean wasteland. I'm going to place my first order at Counter Culture today. I initially got a 2.2 lb bag of Lavazza beans, because at the time I didn't know what to get. I've tossed so many shots trying to get things right, so maybe that's OK?

 
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