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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 3:24pm
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I liked all the beans I got from CC.  And channel OCD for espresso is good.

 
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 3:41pm
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klund Said:

I realize now that I'm in a fresh coffee bean wasteland. I'm going to place my first order at Counter Culture today. I initially got a 2.2 lb bag of Lavazza beans, because at the time I didn't know what to get. I've tossed so many shots trying to get things right, so maybe that's OK?

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dunno where you are but this place is in Ramsey, MN   http://www.paradiseroasters.com/

here's a list of other roasters that people have recommended.   Click Here (www.home-barista.com)
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 3:43pm
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JDHarding Said:

Shot glasses with proper 1 ounce marks, or 1 larger shot glass with a proper 2 ounce mark. Gotta know where your shots are pulling at.

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Careful though, this can be misleading. I started off measuring my shots volumetrically and was blown away how far off I was once I started weighing them. Crema will add a lot of volume. But for a 90% shot, it's a good start!
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 4:22pm
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Redbird is a nice place to start and delivery is quick.  Also, Redbird is well described and you can read about a lot of experience and description.  Even with less than great beans, you can dial the grind fairly close.
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 4:59pm
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LATrapp Said:

Careful though, this can be misleading. I started off measuring my shots volumetrically and was blown away how far off I was once I started weighing them. Crema will add a lot of volume. But for a 90% shot, it's a good start!

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Straight up

klund Said:

I can do that, although it goes against my tendencies. I tend to measure as little as possible when cooking, relying on what "feels right". Perhaps I will need to channel some of my brother's OCD for this.

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Yeah you won't always have weigh every time just till you get were your going. As it is now I weigh my dose when I am dialing in a new batch of coffee. Since I buy 5 lbs at the time and only thaw what i can use in a day once I am dialed i am pretty much dialed for the whole batch on the grinder. I scale every espresso shot and eyeball everything else.

 
You know those people that want to tell you how to raise your kids but have none of their own? That is how i feel when someone with a kitchen appliance tells me how the merits or dis-merits of my machine or how to use it.
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 5:57pm
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jwoodyu Said:

Since I buy 5 lbs at the time and only thaw what i can use in a day once I am dialed i am pretty much dialed for the whole batch on the grinder. I scale every espresso shot and eyeball everything else.

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I was thinking about buying a 5 lb bag of Redbird and freezing most of it in smaller portions. That would hopefully allow me to work on grind/dose/tamp without having to readjust for new beans all the time.

I know I'm going in the right direction - I've already made drinks better than anything I've done before. I just don't have any consistency.

A scale with 0.1 gram precision should arrive tomorrow

My wife is going to think I'm insane.

 
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Well then, you should see me without coffee.
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 6:12pm
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klund Said:

My wife is going to think I'm insane.

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Welcome to coffeegeek.com ;) I told my doc " I am worried about my memory" he said "when ever a patient tells me that it just mean they have to much on their mind. Now went the spouse tells me that, well then that is another story."   I bet the same applies here.

 
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 6:14pm
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klund Said:

My wife is going to think I'm insane.

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my friends think i run a meth lab.
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 6:15pm
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I thought this was meth.... liquid meth.

 
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Posted Wed Apr 4, 2012, 6:18pm
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5 lbs is a lot if you don't end up liking it.  I am trying 1 lb each of Redbird, RB decaf, and Blue Jaguar.  I am saving the Blue Jag until I use the others, I don't want to mess with 3 at once.  I like the Redbird and decaf, and can't wait to try the Blue Jag.  I ordered 3 lbs to help with shipping.  I will probably settle on 5 lbs of Redbird or Blue Jag for the next order.
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