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Posted Wed Sep 12, 2012, 9:56am
Subject: A lot of crema!  (No complaint)
 

Today I pulled a shot of 30hr old JBM City + roast on my modded Delonghi EC155.  The shot came out a bit quickly, I did not time it.  I got a ton of light to medium brown dark crema.  There was so much that I had to stop the shot at 1 1/2 oz on a 2 shot before it overflowed.

When I tasted the shot I noticed that it tasted very bitter.  I'm confused because the shot came out quick but was over extracted and gave a ton of crema.  Anybody have any ideas?  Is the crema due to it being such a new roast?

FYI I roasted 1lb in my Behmor P1 (100% heat during the entire roast) setting.  16min roast to C+.
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Posted Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:28am
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You can get a ton of crema even with a bad shot.... those beans pry need a few days of gassing off, 30hrs may not have been enough. I don't think I've ever had any bean after 1 day rest and liking it, beans need at least a few days. Don't most people with Behmors recommend not doing 1lb at once? See so many post saying to do smaller batches to have more even and controlled roast.
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Posted Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:43am
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You’re prolly right. I'll let them rest for a few more days.  As for the Behmor I haven't read that.  I have only read people not getting a hot enough roast at the 1lb setting which is usually a voltage problem.  I was able to roast the entire 1lb with time to spare and without adding additional time.  I have a dedicated 125V 15A line for it.  The roast also looks very even.  I'll pull a shot in a day or 2.
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Posted Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:16pm
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Crema is no guarantor of good taste. Even though it can be a sign of proper extraction, it's mostly good looks. Most beans need 5 to 10 days of rest after roasting.

 
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Posted Sat Sep 15, 2012, 7:44am
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Well, there you go...crema is NOT equal to "good shot". The bitterness could also be due to too hot of an extraction.

 
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