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RVDave
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Posted Thu Oct 25, 2012, 1:13pm
Subject: Foam troubles
 

Been with my new machine for about a week now (Pasquini Livietta) and I still can't seem to steam a decent foam.  What I typically end up with is bot milk on the bottom, and very airy, unpourable foam on top.  I use a 20oz frothing pitcher, and the standard wand on the machine.  The funny thing is I had used the aerolatte prior to the machine, which I can make great foam with. I've watched tons of videos online and feel I have okay technique. Is there anything I am doing wrong, or anything I can get to make my life easier?
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Posted Thu Oct 25, 2012, 1:37pm
Subject: Re: Foam troubles
 

when i try to use the standard wand on my mini vivaldi with a 20 oz. pitcher, I often wind up with too much big bubble foam at the top.  In my case, it's because my standard wand doesn't reach comfortably into the pitcher.  I've decided to go back to the 12 oz. pitchers that work very well for me.  I don't want that big a drink anyhow, I was just experimenting to see if the bigger pitcher would make latte art easier for me - it doesn't.
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Posted Fri Oct 26, 2012, 7:02am
Subject: Re: Foam troubles
 

Do less foaming and more whirlpool/mixing when you froth milk.

 
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Posted Fri Oct 26, 2012, 7:35am
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I find this a highly informative read: The Milk Frothing Guide.

 
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Posted Fri Oct 26, 2012, 8:58am
Subject: Re: Foam troubles
 

yeah, sounds like you're getting much too much air introduced into your milk.  listen for little whispers, rather than enormous coarse sounds while you stretch.  If people can hear you across the street (exaggerating) it's too much air.  videos are good, the frothing guide is great (as Nobby recommended).

 
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Posted Sun Oct 28, 2012, 2:20am
Subject: Re: Foam troubles
 

calblacksmith Said:

Do less foaming and more whirlpool/mixing when you froth milk.

Posted October 26, 2012 link


Totaly agree.

NobbyR Said:

I find this a highly informative read: The Milk Frothing Guide.

Posted October 26, 2012 link

And this is good article as well.
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