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NobbyR Senior Member Joined: 10 Jul 2011 Posts: 1,609 Location: Germany Expertise: I love coffee
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Posted Fri Nov 9, 2012, 8:37am Subject: Re: Espresso tests show that the baristas do it right (Article)
It is interesting indeed, because after all and from a historic point of view those parameters we like to consider more or less as gospel are purely empiric and not the result of scientific testing. It's good to know that tradition can be objectively right.
*** "This drink of the Satan is so delicious that it would be a shame to leave it to the infidels." (Pope Clement VIII on coffee)
NobbyR Senior Member Joined: 10 Jul 2011 Posts: 1,609 Location: Germany Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Poccino Opus One, Ariete Grinder: Eureka Mignon Istantaneo,... Vac Pot: N/A Drip: Melitta Linea Unica de Luxe Roaster: N/A
Posted Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:16am Subject: Re: Espresso tests show that the baristas do it right (Article)
Yes and no. Those numbers are in his book for sure. But without wanting to put Dr. Illy's achievements for espresso quality down, I don't think the numbers are evidence based in any scientific way that he conducted something like a randomized study using blind tastings and different brewing parameters. It's more like an expert's opinion, I guess.
*** "This drink of the Satan is so delicious that it would be a shame to leave it to the infidels." (Pope Clement VIII on coffee)
Yes. There was extensive research, testing, and tasting that went into those numbers. The Illy book confirms that and so much more. While there will always be more room for discovery in espresso brewing, it's no accident this group just re-confirmed the wheel still works.
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