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Posted Wed Jan 16, 2013, 8:17am
Subject: How to make a less strong cappuccino
 

Yeah, it does sound like a strange question.
I have the Saeco Aroma with both portafilter pressurized (for her) and non-pressurized (for me) and the Baratza Virtuoso grinder.
My wife does not like the cap I prepared for her; too strong.  My question, how can I brew a weak or less strong but still tasty cap.  She hates Starbuck too much milk. I’ve tried to add water, more milk, less coffee, used the pressurized portafilter.

My goal is to only use the non-pressurized portafilter and stop changing grind setting for me and her and not to buy an espresso machine to her.

She only drinks cap on the weekend, 2 per day. I have 2 espressos every morning.
I used fresh coffee within 2 weeks roast.

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Posted Wed Jan 16, 2013, 8:40am
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Can I ask why you use the pressurized pf for her and the non-pressurized for yourself? Do you think that has anything to do with it?

Other than that, it sounds like you need to try a different blend of beans - with a different flavor profile.  See if she can tell you what it is about the flavor profile she does and doesn't like, then search for blends that seem to suit her taste better.  Most of the roasters I've bought from have pretty good descriptions of the flavor profiles of their blends on their website.  You could also ask for opinions in the espresso blends forum, once you find out what you're looking for.

 
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Posted Wed Jan 16, 2013, 9:54am
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"Too strong," in what way?
Maybe use a single shot in hers, or more milk- closer to a latte?

 
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 6:28am
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Thanks for the reply,

I'll try a different roast, maybe light instead of medium dark.

As for a single shot, I don't have a single basket, and read that it is very difficult to master.
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 6:54am
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simply changing to lighter roast may not do the trick.  If roasted too light, the flavor can get grassy. Also the roast level, though affecting the balance of flavors in the bean, doesn't really change it's overall profile...what's there is there.  Now, if what you're currently using is predominately charcoal and ash tasting, then a lighter roast is definitely what you want.  Other than that, you might get lucky, but it's a crap shoot.

...and didn't you say you've already tried changing the espresso:milk ratio?

 
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 7:01am
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The drink is one of ratio. A cap is 1/3 1/3 1/3 foam, milk, espresso. If that is too strong, that is not the drink for her.
What do you mean when you say "too strong"?  That could mean lots of things, what is it exactly that she does not like?

I also ask why you use a PPF with her and not you, isn't what is good for one, good for the other?

 
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 9:41am
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Strong cap for her is Epic from 49th Parallel, for example.  Maybe I should try a latte, bigger cup, more milk.
I uses the PPF for her, so the coffee is less strong more water in it, less tasteful.
I used to have a Breville Roma, and was buying grocery store pre ground coffee, she love it.
My taste changed a lot since our trip to Italy, but not hers, she only drank one coffe per day at the hotel and it was horrible, I was going to the espresso bar and I was in heaven.
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 9:54am
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Yes, try making her a good espresso and add enough milk for a latte and see if she doesn't like that better.  My taste is changing a lot since I am tasting my good espresso.  I was at 12 oz of milk to 2 oz of coffee at the start and now I am drinking 2 oz of coffee to 3-4 oz of milk.

 
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 1:02pm
Subject: Re: How to make a less strong cappuccino
 

A PPF, does not make less strong espresso, it just lets you make something that kind of looks like espresso with supermarket bought, pre ground coffee designed for drip use. It won't be good but it will have fake crema  and be strong..... strong swill. If you have the ability to grind properly to not need a PPF, do not use it, it is only hurting things.

You might try adding water to the espresso, this will make an americano or weak espresso that kind of resembles brewed coffee then add milk to that. At least the quality of the coffee will be better.

 
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