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Posted Tue Mar 5, 2013, 2:20pm
Subject: What exactly are VST baskets and are they worth it?
 

Just wondering what the deal is with VST baskets.  I own a Silvia V3 and I have come across several posts about these.  Do they improve shot quality?
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Posted Wed Mar 6, 2013, 5:11am
Subject: Re: What exactly are VST baskets and are they worth it?
 

VST baskets are designed to have a highly uniform and precise pattern, diameter and circularity of their holes. During manufacturing, the holes are tested to be within a few microns of each other in their shape and size. All of this is supposed to give you a more even and better extraction. The baskets are highly popular among coffee geeks around the world. Whether they're worth it or not, you'll have to find out for yourself, I guess.

 
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Posted Thu Mar 7, 2013, 8:56am
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Interesting.. Better extraction means better taste. Time to start hunting around. Do you know of any good online deals for them? 58mm.
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Posted Thu Mar 7, 2013, 9:31am
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Burner0000 Said:

Interesting.. Better extraction means better taste. Time to start hunting around. Do you know of any good online deals for them? 58mm.

Posted March 7, 2013 link

I think they have a deal going now where you buy their pricey tamper (58.35mm) and you basically get their pricey basket for free. Taken together, it is not a bad deal.
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Posted Thu Mar 7, 2013, 10:25am
Subject: Re: What exactly are VST baskets and are they worth it?
 

I have never heard of VST baskets before, but I got a HQ basket from espressoparts, and it made a great difference compared to the stock basket of the Gaggia. The price is great as well (6 or 7 bucks for the 14gr which will hold up to 20gr without any problem, perfect for a double).

Is the VST really $30? Anyone compared it to HQ baskets from espressoparts?

Edit: here is the basket I use, and am very happy with: http://www.espressoparts.com/EPF_870N

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Posted Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:40pm
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Yup.. $30 is fine considering how much I will be using it.  espressoparts is too expensive for me unless I am making a large order.  I live in Canada.
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Posted Thu Mar 7, 2013, 1:16pm
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You know, I am not sure if it is worth it but it sure does make me feel better. I know the original gaggia classic filters I have are absolute garbage. No comparison there.

After investing in a grinder, PID, and other items. It seems silly to quibble over 20 bucks (16 shipped for the EPs one and 37 shipped for the VST).

I have a 15g Ridged one and just ordered a 18g ridgeless. I have a 22g or something like that triple that isn't VST. It sucks that I cant compare them because they are all different sizes.

However, throw some scientific research on each filter backet in the shipping box and it makes me feel better.
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Posted Thu Mar 7, 2013, 1:31pm
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Brianl,

Spending more money does not make me feel better. A better coffee on the other hand will. So of course $20 is not much, but it is not a reason to spend them if it does not make a better coffee, does it?

BTW, espressoparts has free shipping on parts within the US, so now you are off $30 in your calculation ;-)

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Posted Thu Mar 7, 2013, 1:58pm
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they have never given me free shipping. so unelss i'm doing something wrong or there is a price limit.

The point is this. have you ever ordered one? They provide the details of their tests that SHOW the precision. So I know I'm getting the best product in those terms. The ones you mentioned, I see no such thing. Therefore, you completely misread my post.
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Posted Thu Mar 7, 2013, 2:20pm
Subject: Re: What exactly are VST baskets and are they worth it?
 

Brianl,

from the beginning I mentioned I do not know the VST baskets. I am just giving OP an alternative worth looking into, especially given the price difference. I also expressed my interest into knowing if anyone ever made a side by side comparison. I never said you are wrong or whatever, so you should not feel offended.

For the free shipping at espressoparts, you can use the code PARTSSHIPFREE at check out. They advertise it at the very top of their website.

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