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gartia24
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Posted Sun Mar 31, 2013, 1:28pm
Subject: New here - Is this a good newbie setup?
 

I have loved coffee for a long time and I think its time to take the plunge into a better cup of coffee. I am a thinking about purchasing the following setup. Do you guys/girls think this is a good starting place? Any suggestions or criticisms?

Grinder:
Baratza Preciso Coffee Grinder 685

Kettle:
Bonavita 1-Liter Variable Temperature Digital Electric Gooseneck Kettle

Scale:
Escali P115C Primo Digital Multifunctional Food Scale

Storage:
Friis 16-Ounce Coffee Vault

Press:
Aerobie AeroPress Coffee and Espresso Maker

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Posted Sun Mar 31, 2013, 7:00pm
Subject: Re: New here - Is this a good newbie setup?
 

An absolute NO on the Friis vault. Read my Friis Coffee Vault review and if you still want to buy them, be my guest.

Mason Jars and a dark, cool cabinet.

 
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Posted Mon Apr 1, 2013, 12:08am
Subject: Re: New here - Is this a good newbie setup?
 

gartia24 Said:

Grinder:
Baratza Preciso Coffee Grinder 685

Posted March 31, 2013 link

The Baratza Preciso is a good grinder in its own right, but if your budget can afford it, consider switching to the Baratza Vario instead. If you prefer to control dosing,
consider the Vario-W instead if you can afford the extra budget. It may save you some fuss and muss if you prefer to grind straight into the container rather than into a portafilter.

gartia24 Said:

Kettle:
Bonavita 1-Liter Variable Temperature Digital Electric Gooseneck Kettle

Posted March 31, 2013 link

So far so good. Yes, this is a decent temperature controlled kettle, from what I've seen. What makes this kettle unique is the precise temperature control, rather than just a
couple of pre-set selections.

gartia24 Said:

Scale:
Escali P115C Primo Digital Multifunctional Food Scale

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I'd recommend the Digiweigh DWP-1001 instead. It measures in 0.1 gram resolution and can measure up to 1 kilogram. Perfect for weighing a loaded portafilter. I personally own
one of these scales and one thing I really like about it is that I don't need any batteries, has plenty of room to weigh big things on it and is very easy to use.

However, in saying that, if you are considering using this scale to just measure coffee, you can let the Baratza do that instead and save some counter space.

gartia24 Said:

Storage:
Friis 16-Ounce Coffee Vault

Posted March 31, 2013 link

I agree with fcrn, conventional mason jars work well.

gartia24 Said:

Press:
Aerobie AeroPress Coffee and Espresso Maker

Posted March 31, 2013 link

Well, stepping back a bit here, are you aiming to make espresso with this or do you just want to make drip coffee really quickly?

Have you considered the idea of buying a Moka Pot instead of a Press?

 
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Posted Mon Apr 1, 2013, 5:57am
Subject: Re: New here - Is this a good newbie setup?
 

Bud, you keep mentioning portafilter, but I see nothing about espresso in this proposed setup.

The Preciso is a great entry-level grinder for espresso through French press, but if you're just doing aero, drip, pour over, etc., you would definitely get by just fine with a cheaper Encore or Virtuoso. However, I do a lot of pour over and I LOVE my Vario-W. I am definitely spoiled grinding by weight now. If you're not going to do espresso, I would recommend the Vario-W with the metal burr set. Though even if you we're to go with the W, you would still want a scale to measure your brew ratios (that's pretty important with manual brew methods). The only important thing about a scale is to make sure it measures in .1g. FWIW, I own the same Bonaviga kettle and love it. Great choice.
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Posted Mon Apr 1, 2013, 3:33pm
Subject: Re: New here - Is this a good newbie setup?
 

Taking into account that this forum is for espresso and you do not mention that your intent is anything else, no, it will not make espresso

If you are looking to make brewed coffee, the grinder wii do the job, the kettle is over kill and the vault is useless and yes you will get great brewed coffee from the aero press.

In coffee, it is grinder first, buy the best grinder you can afford. You can keep your coffee in a canning jar, JUST KEEP IT COOL AND IN THE DARK. Any electric kettle will get the water hot. Just bring it to a boil then let it cool off for about 30 seconds. For travel, I have a cheep plastic kettle I bought for $15 at Kmart that works just fine

 
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Posted Mon Apr 1, 2013, 10:37pm
Subject: Re: New here - Is this a good newbie setup?
 

tglodjo Said:

Bud, you keep mentioning portafilter, but I see nothing about espresso in this proposed setup.

Posted April 1, 2013 link

Heh. Well, actually, I only said "Portafilter" once. What is the proper term for the plunger thingy you put the coffee into on an Aeropress?
I guess I could have used the word "Cylinder" instead. Regardless, if the OP decides to buy an espresso machine in the future, the statement still applies.

tglodjo Said:

you would definitely get by just fine with a cheaper Encore or Virtuoso.

Posted April 1, 2013 link

If you are on a budget and you just want a cheap grinder, then yes. Those are good recommendations. Although, IMO, since these grinders cost about
half as much as an espresso capable one, why not just splurge the extra little bit? It's up to you. It would save you from buying another new grinder later.

Another thing I could probably suggest as well would be a Samovar aka a "Water Boiler". The purpose behind a Samovar is to keep a lot of hot water
constantly hot and at a controlled temperature. Asian-Style water boilers have an electric pump in them to dispense water on demand.

This is different over a kettle, which is usually just designed to heat water up until it is boiling and then shut off. I can't really compare them to a Bonavita Kettle
because I don't own one, but I do own a Zojirushi water boiler and I absolutely love it for making hot beverages.

The problem with Japanese style water boilers is that they usually have three set temperature ranges, 175 F, 195 F and 208 F. All of which are excellent
for teas and other hot beverages, but are a little imprecise for coffee. Even though the SCAA recommends the brew water is kept between 195 F to 205 F when brewing,
I guess one would have to experiment with it and brew coffee at both set temperatures to see how that affects their brew.

ie. You may wish to pour the water into an intermediate container first, such as a porcelain tea pot, to cool it down a little from 208 F before pouring it over the grounds.

 
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