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osteenjames
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Posted Thu Aug 1, 2013, 6:20am
Subject: Breville 800 ESXL
 

Hello, I just started making Espresso.  I have a Breville 800 ESXL.

The operation is simple. I turn on, wait for heat light to go out, steam milk and then place shot glasses under where coffee drools out and I have to place in stand-by mode  or the shot glasses will over-flow.  Also when I first turn on machine water starts accumulating in the drip tray under shot glasses from little valve down there.

Questions:1.  Why doesn't espresso shut off auto when shot glass fills? Am I supposed to place in stand-by when Shot-glass is filled to prevent overflow?
Question:2.  Is drip tray under shot glasses supposed to accumulate a bit of water from little valve located bottom right in drip tray?

Notes: I bought espresso beans from Caribou Coffee and they ground the beans (1/2) because I do not have good grinder. My first shots of espresso tasted very good with steamed milk and I tamped well and I have to tell you I have the same caffeine-fix as I would from coffee shop.
My worry is if espresso-shots over-flow is the creme missing.

***I need a non-pressurized basket for Breville 800ESXL Seattle coffee gear is out-of-stock, where else can I get one?
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Posted Thu Aug 1, 2013, 11:21am
Subject: Re: Breville 800 ESXL
 

osteenjames Said:

Why doesn't espresso shut off auto when shot glass fills?   Am I supposed to place in stand-by when Shot-glass is filled to prevent overflow?

Posted August 1, 2013 link

Because the 800 ESXL isn't an automatic.  Do you not have the manual?  If not, it can be downloaded from Breville's web site and covers this.

osteenjames Said:

Is drip tray under shot glasses supposed to accumulate a bit of water from little valve located bottom right in drip tray?

Posted August 1, 2013 link

Yes -- also covered in the manual.

osteenjames Said:

Notes: I bought espresso beans from Caribou Coffee and they ground the beans (1/2) because I do not have good grinder.

Posted August 1, 2013 link

Definitely get a good grinder.  Preground is stale.

osteenjames Said:

My worry is if espresso-shots over-flow is the creme missing.

***I need a non-pressurized basket for Breville 800ESXL Seattle coffee gear is out-of-stock, where else can I get one?

Posted August 1, 2013 link

I wouldn't worry about the missing the crema from a pressurized portafilter.
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CMIN
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Posted Thu Aug 1, 2013, 11:44am
Subject: Re: Breville 800 ESXL
 

The only machines that will stop are volumetric dosing (for water) machines and your looking at thousands of $ for that lol. Otherwise any other high end or low end machine you must stop manually. Definitely get a good grinder, pre-ground coffee is stale, and Caribou I don't think roast to order. I always see their beans sitting in grocery stores. If they don't roast to order or you see a "sell by, or best by" date on a bag of coffee from anyone, run as fast as you can lol. I wouldn't worry about crema as your actually not getting any, the pressurized baskets produce fake crema (like a water hose flowing, and then stick your finger over it making it spray harder... that's essentially what it does, just sorta foams the coffee). Preground coffee is stale in about 15 minutes, but the pressurized portafilters help people make coffee that don't have good grinders or use preground etc, but it taste more like stale drip. My 1st machine had a pressurized PF and I depressurized it.

If you get a good grinder (minimum Baratza Preciso for espresso capable grinding) and a normal basket (I think Breville sells depressurized ones too use), you'll see a massive difference, along with fresh roasted beans. Espresso (really coffee in general) needs fresh beans ground right before use, and more importantly with Espresso it needs a capable grinder which is right around $300 to start (or less if you find a refurb or good used machine). Even if you get a good grinder and no depressurized basket, you'll still see a big difference vs preground, especially pre-ground from beans that are already stale. Tons of roasters online (or you could google your own area) that roast to order.

There's no 3 way valve on that machine and don't think you can backflush the 800esxl , so not sure what you mean with the drip tray. If there's a hose dripping in there must be there for a reason to release some water etc.
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