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Posted Sat Nov 30, 2013, 4:50pm
Subject: Boiler wattage
 

Currently I am waiting for the new BES920XL BDB to come out. I've heard it will be 2400 watts rather than the originals 1700. QUESTION: What advantages will this have?
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Posted Sat Nov 30, 2013, 11:03pm
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Can you cite the source where you saw this?

That wattage rating doesn't sound right to me.

Even if that machine could draw that much current and use that much power, which I'm sure it wouldn't, all it would grant you is better boiler recovery time between shots and better steaming capability.
(ie. Ability to make steam and able to steam much larger amounts of milk without depleting the boiler pressure as quickly.)

Realistically, for home barista use, 1600 watts is enough. Unless you drink massive amounts of coffee or have a large amount of company over.

 
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Posted Sun Dec 1, 2013, 6:44am
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That might be the wattage for a European spec machine, USA machines may be less wattage since they will mostly run on 15A circuits and both boilers will alternate on/off. Higher steam wattage with the right steam tip and boiler size could provide for stronger & longer steam power.
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Posted Sun Dec 1, 2013, 10:21am
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I've read it on many forums. It should be on this site somewhere.
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Posted Sun Dec 1, 2013, 1:10pm
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Mistake, 2200w not 2400.
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Posted Thu Dec 5, 2013, 2:43am
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I think 2400 watts is just right since it is the power of the machine. Donít misinterpret this voltage; this is the standard voltage in Europe which is 220 volts or in the US 110 volts.

The original BES920xl BDB has original power of 1700 watts, making it to 2400 watts can be interpreted as increasing power. Meaning more works should be done in the higher wattage resulting to more output. Higher wattage is good only for plenty amounts of coffee.

Anyway, if your intention is just to use it for your home, I think lower wattage is needed to save electricity consumption.

 
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Posted Thu Dec 5, 2013, 3:28am
Subject: Re: Boiler wattage
 

CoffeeLoversMag Said:

I think 2400 watts is just right since it is the power of the machine. Donít misinterpret this voltage; this is the standard voltage in Europe which is 220 volts or in the US 110 volts.

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European voltage (EU and partner countries) is actually 230v/50hz nominal, not 220, and with a permitted variance of -6%/+10%

CoffeeLoversMag Said:

The original BES920xl BDB has original power of 1700 watts, making it to 2400 watts can be interpreted as increasing power. Meaning more works should be done in the higher wattage resulting to more output. Higher wattage is good only for plenty amounts of coffee.

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The advantage of higher wattage is faster temperature recovery - very useful if you're making a quick succession of drinks, but never a bad thing anyway.  More power ! More power! more power !.....

CoffeeLoversMag Said:

Anyway, if your intention is just to use it for your home, I think lower wattage is needed to save electricity consumption.

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A given mass of water needs the same amount of energy (watt/hours in this case) to heat it by a set amount irrespective of the voltage used to deliver that energy.  You pay for watt/hours so nothing is saved or gained.
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Posted Thu Dec 5, 2013, 9:33am
Subject: Re: Boiler wattage
 

More power, better just be sure your outlet can handle it.
I advise while you are waiting, look into the other options in that price range, I think that without a doubt you will find better built machines with much longer projected life times than the track record of the current BDB is.
On the other hand, if you want to spend $1K to be a BETA tester, please feel free to do so! YMMV!

 
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Posted Sat Dec 7, 2013, 8:59pm
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mennamorato Said:

Mistake, 2200w not 2400.

Posted December 1, 2013 link

Yet this one also has the 2400 claim.
Perhaps the "Several different" reports are all typos or repetitions of some original typo. The likelyhood of an American market, 120V, breville appliance being sold for home-kitchen use at 2200 or 2400 watts is unrealistic. Whatever the source of this report, it's merely a "Fact" on the internet where I can state the fact that the new Breville will be made of titanium and have gold-plated electrical terminals throughout.
Nobody's going to buy a disposable that requires a 20 amp recepticle. It'll be 1700 watts or less.
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Posted Sat Dec 7, 2013, 9:33pm
Subject: Re: Boiler wattage
 

In both UK and AU it's over 2200w, look it up.
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