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jonr
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Posted Sun Dec 8, 2013, 5:01pm
Subject: Re: Boiler wattage
 

qualin Said:

Realistically, for home barista use, 1600 watts is enough.

Posted December 1, 2013 link

Anything over ~800 watts and it can keep up with shots as they are being produced.  That leaves steaming performance as the possibly significant advantage.
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SStones
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Posted Sun Dec 8, 2013, 8:26pm
Subject: Re: Boiler wattage
 

Look it up? I did.  Remember? I provided one of the links.  Neither the UK or AU are in the USA, that's easy to look up ..  Oh nevermind.
Yes, go buy one. (I am kidding)
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mennamorato
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Posted Sun Dec 8, 2013, 9:09pm
Subject: Re: Boiler wattage
 

I don't plan on buying it.
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SStones
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Posted Mon Dec 9, 2013, 5:25am
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My response was petty.  I apologize.
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mennamorato
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Posted Mon Dec 9, 2013, 9:43am
Subject: Re: Boiler wattage
 

It's fine, how do you like your Giotto?
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Posted Fri Dec 13, 2013, 5:13am
Subject: Re: Boiler wattage
 

I love it.  I have never had any problems with it that weren't easy to fix. It didn't take long to get really comfortable using it for consistantly good espresso. I have only one "Upgrade" issue, the boiler fill solenoid. Rocket (As ECM had also done) uses a small boiler fill solenoid despite there being plenty of space for a proper "Lucifer" sized solenoid. In my older Giotto, the valve closed off with calcium twice before I finally replaced it with a larger valve. With the larger valve, it threatens to block off right at the boiler inlet fitting but is easy to descale with come citric acid in through the boiler-fill-probe hole instead of pulling off valves and pipes.  I descale my newer Rocket Giotto more often, and am using it with much softer city water, so it hasn't ever seized closed, yet.  But I do wish Rocket was just using the larger 2-way to begin with.  Some day I will change it to a larger one and can be less concerned with descaling.
Rocket has made great improvements, no more "Pencil Eraser" feet. Serious "Sirai" P-stat. Nice form-fitting boiler insulation for energy efficiency (Mine is older than this improvement and doesn't have it, but I've considered buying some to add).
Both of my Giottos were used before I got them and I suppose I have been very lucky that neither have ever had any serious problems (Yet). I am one of many Giotto people who am very pleased with the machines.
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Posted Fri Dec 13, 2013, 10:12am
Subject: Re: Boiler wattage
 

Thank you for your great reply! I've been "flirting" with the Cellini PP V2 for some time now, and think I'm ready to buy.
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