nkbsbl Senior Member Joined: 11 Oct 2013 Posts: 21 Location: NJ Expertise: I love coffee
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Posted Fri Jan 10, 2014, 12:58pm Subject: Portafilter in Grouphead when starting up machine? Does it matter?
I never attach my portafilter to the grouphead until I'm ready to pull a shot (I usually keep it in a drawer). I noticed recently in some videos and articles that it is best practice to keep the portafilter attached to the grouphead when the machine is started up and warmed. I haven't seen any reasons why this might be beneficial. I tried it once, but the portafilter got very moist and it required me to have to re-clean it before filling with grinds - which is an annoying extra step. If it provides benefit to the machine, I won't mind doing it. I just don't know why it might help.
I'm assuming the answer to this could be machine specific - I'm using an Elektra Semiautomatica. Any input is very much appreciated.
emradguy Senior Member Joined: 31 Mar 2011 Posts: 3,622 Location: Houston Expertise: I live coffee
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Posted Fri Jan 10, 2014, 2:22pm Subject: Re: Portafilter in Grouphead when starting up machine? Does it matter?
I've always dried my pf before filling it with grounds. I just figure, any little bits of water will start extracting the grounds that hit it before I lock and load, and may also lead to clumping and uneven extraction. It's probably ridiculous though. The other thing is, my pf is never wet before I pull the first shot, and the only time it comes off the group is to fill it or clean it.
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Posted Sat Jan 11, 2014, 8:25am Subject: Re: Portafilter in Grouphead when starting up machine? Does it matter?
I put the portafilter in the machine (loosely) when heating it up and the basket(s) stay up on the cup rack warming with the cups.The mass of the portafilter retains heat and when it comes time to pull a shot I put the basket in the portfilter, load the grinds and pull the shot. If I'm pulling a cooling flush for the HX I leave the basket out. I must admit that I've take the retaining spring out of all my portafilters so that the baskets are easy to put in and take out.
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Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 1:16pm Subject: Re: Portafilter in Grouphead when starting up machine? Does it matter?
Sounds good, that is pretty much how I keep mine. The PF does not need to be tight in the GH, that can wear the seal too, I just put the PF in the GH and move the handle until I get contact with the gasket and all has been well.
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