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app6cxc
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Posted Mon Mar 24, 2014, 8:21pm
Subject: Duetto iii or vibiemme double 3.5 or Vetrano 2B or Rocket r58 v2
 

I need to order a espresso machine tomorrow.
I can't make the decision between 4 machines.
Please vote which one to get and if you can tell me the reason it will be great help.
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Posted Mon Mar 24, 2014, 9:37pm
Subject: Re: Duetto iii or vibiemme double 3.5 or Vetrano 2B or Rocket r58 v2
 

Well, good thing we have all this time to think about it..  :-/

The problem is that few have ever owned all three in a home use situation for any length of time to give a valuable opinion, so any sort of comments are going to be biased.
It it were me, I would get the Vibiemme.. But I have the Vibiemme DD.
SEE? Biased! I told you!

I love the DD except for the case. It really deserved a better cabinet. But the group is unequaled in the world of E-61s.

 
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Posted Tue Mar 25, 2014, 9:30am
Subject: Re: Duetto iii or vibiemme double 3.5 or Vetrano 2B or Rocket r58 v2
 

frcn Said:

(The DD's) group is unequaled in the world of E-61s.

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???  

Randy, what makes the DD's E-61 group unequaled by any other E-61?

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Posted Tue Mar 25, 2014, 9:37am
Subject: Re: Duetto iii or vibiemme double 3.5 or Vetrano 2B or Rocket r58 v2
 

app6cxc Said:

I need to order a espresso machine tomorrow.
I can't make the decision between 4 machines.
Please vote which one to get and if you can tell me the reason it will be great help.

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As I understand it, the machines are very similar in terms of build quality, and most other respects.  There are some differences in feature sets though.  Call Chris Coffee -- they carry three of the four -- and talk to one of their "advisors," either Mary or Mackenzie.  They're both extremely good at matching machine to man.  

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Posted Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:09am
Subject: Re: Duetto iii or vibiemme double 3.5 or Vetrano 2B or Rocket r58 v2
 

boar_d_laze Said:

???  

Randy, what makes the DD's E-61 group unequaled by any other E-61?

Rich

Posted March 25, 2014 link

It's the heaviest E-61 to begin with (from stated specs I have either heard or seen). While that might not be good to some, I believe it offers more temperature stability.  Also, it has the most advanced design in terms of maintenance as the socket-head bolts make it very easy to remove the mushroom as well as the cam assembly. My statement was subjective, to be sure.

 
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Posted Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:13am
Subject: Re: Duetto iii or vibiemme double 3.5 or Vetrano 2B or Rocket r58 v2
 

Whats wrong with the Vibs case? Always thought that was a cool looking machine
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Posted Tue Mar 25, 2014, 2:23pm
Subject: Re: Duetto iii or vibiemme double 3.5 or Vetrano 2B or Rocket r58 v2
 

CMIN Said:

Whats wrong with the Vibs case? Always thought that was a cool looking machine

Posted March 25, 2014 link

Mostly, noise. The cup warming tray is held by pressure and no hardware. If you open the case, unless you get it aligned just so, the tray rattles. Even if wedged in (I use the loop side of stick-on Velcro) plates on the warming tray vibrate. A lot. The outer shell sits against the metal frame and other parts and will vibrate as well unless installed just so. The screw holes in the shell are larger and allow play when installing, so alignment is a bit of a challenge. The drip tray cover is much the same. The rubbers on the bottom of the feet are stick-on and mine all slowly migrate and have to be pulled off and reset in the middle of the large feet. Just stupid little things like that. Other than that, I very much like the machine. Have had it since 7/2011. The newer ones have an improved insulation on the boilers (mine has a glass wool). I think that they also now have a hole in the drip tray cover for the 'exhaust' of the 3-way (I had to cut my own).

 
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Posted Wed Mar 26, 2014, 4:51pm
Subject: Re: Duetto iii or vibiemme double 3.5 or Vetrano 2B or Rocket r58 v2
 

  1. Duetto iii
  2. vibiemme double 3.5
  3. Vetrano 2B
  4. Rocket r58 v2

...in no particular order ;-)

 
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Posted Thu Mar 27, 2014, 7:09am
Subject: Re: Duetto iii or vibiemme double 3.5 or Vetrano 2B or Rocket r58 v2
 

I was going to reply, but saw you had an urgency to order on the 25th.  What did you decide on? ...or perhaps you were able to hold off for more info?

 
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Posted Thu Mar 27, 2014, 11:47am
Subject: Re: Duetto iii or vibiemme double 3.5 or Vetrano 2B or Rocket r58 v2
 

boar_d_laze Said:

As I understand it, the machines are very similar in terms of build quality, and most other respects.  There are some differences in feature sets though.  Call Chris Coffee -- they carry three of the four -- and talk to one of their "advisors," either Mary or Mackenzie.  They're both extremely good at matching machine to man.  

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+1 Voting or polling isn't the way to determine which to buy.
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