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LatteDude
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LatteDude
Joined: 13 Jan 2010
Posts: 11
Location: Brentwood, CA
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: BES900XL/B (BDB)
Grinder: Vario-W
Posted Sun May 5, 2013, 9:48pm
Subject: ** SOLD ** Upgraded Rancilio Silvia espresso machine & doserless Rocky grinder
 

I'm actually a little sad making this listing as this combo of Silvia and Rocky has been so good and still makes fantastic espressos, lattes and cappuccinos. The fact is, I've enjoyed these units over the past five years, but I've recently replaced them with a different grinder and espresso machine that better suit my specific needs. I live in the east Bay Area and do NOT want to ship!  I'd much prefer if you whould come out to my home in order for me to show you Rocky and Silvia in action and make you an espresso drink of your choice.

Rocky:
What can I say other than this tried and true grinder is fantastic. It's the doser-less version which allows you to grind your beans directly into the portafilter. I find this extremely convenient. I regularly use Urnex Puro Caff Grinder Cleaner to keep the burrs clean. I completely disassemble the grinder for a more detailed cleaning about every 6 weeks. I will have Rocky completely cleaned upon your arrival for inspection and before we use it for an example shot. I purchased a Click Clack container (0.7L size) in order to steal the lid to work with Rocky's hopper. It makes for a better seal and allows you to push some air through the burrs to help expel any stuck grounds. I can't think of anything else to say, but please feel free to ask questions.

Silvia:
Oh boy, where to begin...This is the V2 model, but I've upgraded, added, replaced and modded several things:
-Upgraded to the V3 articulating steam arm/wand - Purchased from Chis Coffee for $69.95
-Upgraded to the V3 steam knob - Purchased from Chis coffee for $14.95
+Custom made steam knob made of olive wood (pictured)
-Added a Klixon Thermal Fuse to prevent the pump from overheating - Purchased from Chis coffee for $9.95
-Added boiler insulation from PIDSILVIA - $50
-Added a pressure gauge from PIDSILVIA and mounted internally - $55
-Added an Auber PID and mounted internally - This was one of the first things done and I can't find the pricing, but it wasn't cheap (over $100)! I cannot stress enough how important a PID is with Silvia. It's the only way in my opinion to pull great shots and replicate the results.
-Replaced the Ulka Vibratory Pump in July of 2010 - Purchased from Chis coffee for $51
This is over $350 in just materials, let alone the time and care taken for the installs. Aside from some general wear and tear scratches on the top cup warmer and drain plate, she's still in great shape.

I'm also including a Rancilio bottomless/naked portafilter with a triple basket! - Purchased from Chis coffee for $57

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Listing Details
Asking / Suggested Price: 860
Seller Name: Ryan Dourgarian
Seller Location: Brentwood, CA
Sale Type: For Sale

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NobbyR
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NobbyR
Joined: 10 Jul 2011
Posts: 2,057
Location: Germany
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Poccino Opus One, Ariete
Grinder: Eureka Mignon Istantaneo
Vac Pot: N/A
Drip: Melitta Linea Unica de Luxe
Roaster: N/A
Posted Mon May 6, 2013, 4:05am
Subject: Re: Upgraded Rancilio Silvia espresso machine & doserless Rocky grinder
 

I would like to suggest that you re-think your pricing, since you can get a brand new Rancilio Silvia and Rocky Grinder package for only $984.00 (without a PID, of course, but all the same new).

 
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LatteDude
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Joined: 13 Jan 2010
Posts: 11
Location: Brentwood, CA
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: BES900XL/B (BDB)
Grinder: Vario-W
Posted Mon May 6, 2013, 8:08am
Subject: Re: Upgraded Rancilio Silvia espresso machine & doserless Rocky grinder
 

Hey NobbyR,
Thanks for the suggestion.  I did think long and hard about setting a price point for this pair, especially considering the price of a new combo.  I feel my price is fair for a few reasons:
  1.  This set is "turn key."  They are ready to begin making fantastic espresso drinks right now.  Sure, a PID for a new machine isn't too expensive and not very difficult to install, but mine is done and has other "upgrades."
  2.  Cutting the face of Silvia and integrating the PID & pressure gauge internally was no small task.  This in and of itself delineates my machine for any new Silvia.  Perhaps looks and having a pressure gauge are not important to some, but they were to me and I'd venture to guess they will be to their next owner.
  3.  Besides coming with everything it originally did, I'm including a Rancilio branded bottomless portafilter with a triple basket.

Let's say somebody was deciding between my pair and getting a new combo and setting it up like mine.  We'll take the price you quoted ($984) and add the following:
$136 - PID
$ 10 - Klixon Thermal Fuse
$ 50 - Boiler insulation
$ 55 - pressure gauge
$ 57 - Rancilio bottomless/naked portafilter with a triple basket
+____________
$1,292 (assuming the price you quoted includes any applicable taxes and shipping)
That price does not include any of the install time and expertise, but even so my combo is listed $432 less.

Anyway, this is a long explanation of my price point, but I'd be curious to hear what you think would be appropriate.
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