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ideaofnorth
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Posted Tue Sep 3, 2013, 12:41pm
Subject: WTB: Arrarex Caravel (Cancel that, my eBay one finally arrived!)
 

Hello! I'm new to the forum but have been voraciously lurking and reading since our return from my fiance's residency in Southern Italy. Espresso was such a large part of my daily routine there, and while I love coffee at home (aeropress, cold brew iced, etc) I didn't think it was possible to be able to make it at home without a "proper", ie. very expensive machine. I've owned many varieties of terrible consumer models throughout my life with predictably terrible results.

After a few months of lurking and reading here, I very excitedly purchased a refurbished Caravel on eBay Italy in June, thinking it would arrive just in time for my birthday in August. Needless to say, weeks and then months have gone by without it arriving. Paypal refused my claim on the item, I'm currently appealing but think the money is lost forever. And more importantly, I'm super bummed I can't enjoy the ristretto I've been dreaming about!

I decided to look for one domestically (in the US), so I bid on the Caravel that the CG user put on eBay recently but was outbid at the last minute! Which is why I thought I'd bring my plea here.

So... if anyone has an extra Caravel laying around that is looking for a good home, please keep me in mind! I'll need a grinder as well (have an older cuisinart that is fine for drip/aeropress, but I know I need an upgrade for espresso). And of course, if anyone can make a case for another machine I'm all ears. I only drink espresso, no milk, so the Caravel seemed like the best choice for me.

Thank you!

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Espresso: Bezzera Strega
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Posted Tue Sep 3, 2013, 12:53pm
Subject: Re: WTB: Arrarex Caravel (of course)
 

Caravel from a REPUTABLE SOURCE is an ideal machine, and YES, a great grinder is always a must for espresso.
To start for less, there are several manual grinders that can do a fine job, and will save you a couple hundred bucks. Many lever folks like to keep the process entirely manual. YMMV
That said, if you can afford it, I'd go for a Baratza Vario, either new or refurb.
For over 50% less, you could go with the Baratza Virtuoso with the PRECISO burr set, or the Preciso itself.
A pre-owned Lelit or equivalent would work, but usually you should change out the burrs with new ones.

Another lever to check out would be a La Pavoni. For beginners with a lever (or even some less than adroit like me) I'd go with the Millennium version, with the 51mm PF. Again, caveat emptor, as many on the 'bay are in need of a LOT of TLC.

 
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ideaofnorth
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Posted Tue Sep 3, 2013, 1:20pm
Subject: Re: WTB: Arrarex Caravel (of course)
 

Thanks! La Pavoni was definitely on my shortlist but from what I could tell the Caravel is more predictable. Is this true?

Thanks for the grinder tips as well. I was leaning towards a manual grinder for now, but the Preciso is certainly reasonably priced. Appreciate it!


IMAWriter Said:

Caravel from a REPUTABLE SOURCE is an ideal machine, and YES, a great grinder is always a must for espresso.
To start for less, there are several manual grinders that can do a fine job, and will save you a couple hundred bucks. Many lever folks like to keep the process entirely manual. YMMV
That said, if you can afford it, I'd go for a Baratza Vario, either new or refurb.
For over 50% less, you could go with the Baratza Virtuoso with the PRECISO burr set, or the Preciso itself.
A pre-owned Lelit or equivalent would work, but usually you should change out the burrs with new ones.

Another lever to check out would be a La Pavoni. For beginners with a lever (or even some less than adroit like me) I'd go with the Millennium version, with the 51mm PF. Again, caveat emptor, as many on the 'bay are in need of a LOT of TLC.

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Posted Wed Sep 4, 2013, 9:27am
Subject: Re: WTB: Arrarex Caravel (of course)
 

Open boilers are awesome. If you are an espresso only person, look into La Peppina as well. It pulls a killer shot and is temperature stable like the Caravel. They can be found cheaper as well, although they are made of cheaper materials. Both are beautiful. La Peppina is a spring lever but it is 'inverted' so to speak which means you can assist the lever creating more or less pressure which makes it very forgiving of grind and tamp and dose. For comparison, on my Sama Export I cannot help the lever at all once I pull it so my grind/dose/tamp must be more carefully executed.

Caravels are great and I will add one to my collection one day, but La Peppina seriously surprised me. I can make shots just as good as (but, of course, with a different profile) the local shops..and they have Mirages, Synessos, and La Marcozos O.O ^_^
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Posted Wed Sep 4, 2013, 9:33am
Subject: Re: WTB: Arrarex Caravel (of course)
 

Thanks! I'll definitely look into the La Peppina. Not sure why it wasn't on my radar.

beerANDmathematics Said:

Open boilers are awesome. If you are an espresso only person, look into La Peppina as well. It pulls a killer shot and is temperature stable like the Caravel. They can be found cheaper as well, although they are made of cheaper materials. Both are beautiful. La Peppina is a spring lever but it is 'inverted' so to speak which means you can assist the lever creating more or less pressure which makes it very forgiving of grind and tamp and dose. For comparison, on my Sama Export I cannot help the lever at all once I pull it so my grind/dose/tamp must be more carefully executed.

Caravels are great and I will add one to my collection one day, but La Peppina seriously surprised me. I can make shots just as good as (but, of course, with a different profile) the local shops..and they have Mirages, Synessos, and La Marcozos O.O ^_^

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ideaofnorth
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Posted Sat Sep 14, 2013, 10:27am
Subject: Re: WTB: Arrarex Caravel (Cancel that, my eBay one finally arrived!)
 

Well, after four months my Caravel finally arrived! I thought for sure it was lost forever, or never sent in the first place.

Everything looks to be in great shape as described, and after making a bit of a mess I pulled a respectable ristretto. Even with slightly out of date espresso from Tandem (amazing local nano-roastery), I can tell I'm going love this machine.

Now to explore the world of hand grinders. Also, any recommends for a tamper for this guy?

Thanks again!
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Posted Sat Sep 14, 2013, 10:52am
Subject: Re: WTB: Arrarex Caravel (Cancel that, my eBay one finally arrived!)
 

Check out Orphan Espresso.  That's where I got my tamper.
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