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dingo1799
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Joined: 17 Jan 2014
Posts: 26
Location: Stlmo
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Couple of broken pavoni...
Grinder: Vario W
Vac Pot: Cory DRU/DRL
Drip: Nah
Roaster: Nah
Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 2:09am
Subject: Anyone selling a espresso grinder for a decent price?
 

I'm considering a breville smart grinder, theyre on amazon refurb'd for $120. Almost got hold of a rocky w/doser on ebay day before that had a broken hopper, but the $160 it went for was more than i was willing to pay for something obviously broken. Seen a few on here, just figured I'd throw out a post to see whos still selling..

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Asking / Suggested Price: 1
Seller Name: G H
Seller Location: Varies
Sale Type: Wanted to Buy
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calblacksmith
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calblacksmith
Joined: 25 Nov 2007
Posts: 7,675
Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A.
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 7:34am
Subject: Re: Anyone selling a espresso grinder for a decent price?
 

It all depends on what you consider... a "decent price"

If you mean give away, unlikely but most things here are a little better than you can find in the "open market" such as FleaBay and better taken care of too. The "best deals" go VERY quickly and if you are not Johny on the spot, it is gone before you can blink. But then it depends on personal circumstances of everyone at the time. I have seen GREAT equipment at a very good price linger for a while only because either people could not afford new gear such as at tax time etc or the item, while great, appeals to a smaller market on the whole.

For a grinder, your type of grind will greatly affect the price. For general use OTHER THAN ESPRESSO, they will be on the less expensive side of things but for any espresso duty, you need to aim higher.

$160 for a Rocky with a broken doser is a pretty good price, not great but if you were in the market, not bad either. Rocky has seen better days though as his steps are pretty wide making fine adjustment difficult and times have moved on since then.

In general, espresso grinders with a motor START new at $350 and they do not depreciate very much as there is little to go wrong other than needing burrs or they were abuse or had an accident. The market reflects this when it comes to used gear.

The smart grinder while OK for other than espresso brewing, it not really an espresso grinder and it leaves much to be wanted in that use.... YMMV!

 
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Webbles
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Joined: 9 Jan 2013
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Location: IN
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Rancilio Silvia (v1 from...
Grinder: Rancilio Rocky (white)
Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:50pm
Subject: Re: Anyone selling a espresso grinder for a decent price?
 

Dingo, you sound like me about a year ago.  I was just getting into espresso and learned that purchasing a grinder was my first step. However, at the time I couldn't imagine spending more than $100 for a coffee grinder, when you can get one for $20 at Wal-Smart. So, I did a ton of research on grinders, and pushed myself to drop $175 on a Breville Smart Grinder. I found one on ebay that was New, Sealed in the Box, so I prided myself in saving $25 off the retail price. (bad move)  

Initially I was very happy with my grinder, because after swithing to a non-pressurized portafilter, I was able to dial in my shots and make consistently good espresso from fresh ground beans.  I was immediately making it better than *$$.  However, just before this past thanksgiving, I started having issues and my grinder stopped working. No matter what the setting, it made a clicking noise and produced grounds that choked out my espresso machine.  

So, I called Breville. They were very helpful, and after only a couple troubleshooting attempts, they decided to replace my grinder. All I had to do was send them my receipt through email, and they would pay to ship my grinder back. However, eBay is not an authorized retailer, of course. I tried to contact the eBay seller, but he was no longer on eBay. I found his email on Paypal, but he did not return my emails.

In the interim, I found an OLD Rancilio Rocky grinder on Craigslist and negotiated a $120 deal.  It was 11 years old, and had the original White metal and black plastic frame with purple hopper/doser. It is UGLY, but compared to the Breville, it produces lighter, fluffier grounds and blasts through beans like butter. I replaced the burrs ($40) and did the teflon tape/rubber tubing mods that can be found here and H-B. ($5) I now have a stepless grinder that is a TANK of a workhorse and I LOVE that ugly mother hubbard!

Here's my advice:  Get a doserless rocky, and do the mods to make it stepless. If that means you have to save some money, or hold off for a STEAL of a deal, DO IT!! Now, if you are still sold on the Breville (I can see why, heck, I chose it to begin with) then get one NEW from an authorized Breville retailer so you have the warranty.  And buy the extended warranty for as many years as you can.  I know of one other person that purchased a Smart Grinder, and his broke as well.  Luckily he bought it from an authorized retailer and Breville sent him a new one. Lastly, be prepared to start thinking that a decent espresso grinder costs $500.  I currently have my eye on a Mazzer Mini E Type A, and would love to only pay $500 for it.  

Good luck and drink it like it's hot!!!

 
Life is too short to drink cheap espresso!
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SJM
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Joined: 17 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,707
Location: CA
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: SAMA, Gaggia Classic
Grinder: K-10PB, Rancilio MD-50
Vac Pot: no like
Drip: no like
Roaster: HotTop
Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 1:01pm
Subject: Re: Anyone selling a espresso grinder for a decent price?
 

I've got a Rancilio MD-50 on offer at http://www.gaggiausersgroup.com.
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CMIN
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Joined: 14 Jun 2012
Posts: 1,356
Location: South FL
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: Crossland CC1
Grinder: Baratza Preciso
Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 1:06pm
Subject: Re: Anyone selling a espresso grinder for a decent price?
 

Don't bother with the Smart Grinder, it's good for coarse needs and does have some nifty features, but it has a very narrow window for espresso and doesn't let you dial in really. And it has a fairly weak motor that can sorta struggle with light/medium roast beans. You can pull a shot crema and all, but it'll be lacking in flavor, body etc vs something like the Preciso which is about bare minimum for an espresso grinder "new". I'm not a fan of the Rocky, but you can sometimes score a really cheap deal on one and mod it, I used a modded stepless one and still didn't really care for it especially retention wise as I single dose, but it'll be much better than a Smart Grinder. It is robust too, built like a tank.
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Angman
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Angman
Joined: 8 Apr 2012
Posts: 235
Location: Vancouver BC
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: Strega, MCal, Cimbali M20L
Grinder: K10 Fresh, HG One 83mm,...
Vac Pot: Nope
Drip: Technivorm, Hario Woodneck,...
Roaster: Hottop 8828P
Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 2:01pm
Subject: Re: Anyone selling a espresso grinder for a decent price?
 

I have a smart and its an excellent grinder for my drop coffee in small batches. I would not use it for espresso and I would not try to grind too light a roast nor too great a quantity. It's never broke but the motor sounds and smells weak. When I grind for 4 cups of drip its ok but when I grind for 10 there is a lingering smell and the motor labors. If aesthetics is not an issue buy a used commercial grade quality grinder and it'll last you a lifetime.
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pacificmanitou
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Joined: 5 Feb 2013
Posts: 15
Location: Ohio
Expertise: I live coffee

Posted Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:08pm
Subject: Re: Anyone selling a espresso grinder for a decent price?
 

For espresso I would skip anything under the vario/SJ class. cheaper grinders are painful to use because of their inconsistencies. I tried and failed with most. I happen to be selling an SJ on HB for $350. It sounds like thats far higher than youre looking to spend, but that is what these things cost. Unfortunately, cheaper equipment is inconsistent enough and has enough limitations that its not worth using.
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dqts
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Joined: 12 Nov 2011
Posts: 53
Location: Federal way, wa
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Rancilio S20 midi de
Grinder: Cunill Brasil, Capresso...
Vac Pot: bodum 8 cup
Drip: Chemex, kyoto
Roaster: us roaster corp 1 lb
Posted Sat Jan 18, 2014, 12:06am
Subject: Re: Anyone selling a espresso grinder for a decent price?
 

I had a tonx membership and am not a rep for them  

If you sign up for a membership you get member prices on baratza grinders.
New and wholesale price.

Obviously still a lot for the vario but a great discount!
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dingo1799
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Joined: 17 Jan 2014
Posts: 26
Location: Stlmo
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Couple of broken pavoni...
Grinder: Vario W
Vac Pot: Cory DRU/DRL
Drip: Nah
Roaster: Nah
Posted Sat Jan 18, 2014, 1:31am
Subject: Re: Anyone selling a espresso grinder for a decent price?
 

Now now, hold on. I said i was "considering" a smart grinder...never said I'd have one sitting on my counter tomorrow!
About the only thing I'd even consider buying right off the bat would be a precisio, and from the looks theyre hit and miss too.

But it looks like I'm saved from all the searching on cl, fleebay, and all the other nooks and crannies of the web, someone emailed me with a cunill tranquilio for under $200. Fresh 60mm burr set (bigger than a rocky)doser-less... Looks like a deal i cant pass up. Don't really like the 1600 rpm, but that can be adjusted

FWIW, not to pee on anyone's Cheerios, but this is posted in the BST, all the info on here you guys have said, I've already read in the last 3 weeks I've been lurking on here before registering.
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