calblacksmith Moderator Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 8,169 Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A. Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32 Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major Vac Pot: 40s era Silex Drip: Msl. Com. brewers Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Wed May 14, 2014, 12:29pm Subject: Re: Red Mini Vivaldi II & Pro M Espresso grinder
Good luck, sorry it was not for you. It takes most people much longer than 2 weeks to "get the hang" of consistent good shots but if it is not for you, then it is not for you.
On packing the grinder. The job of packing that most ship "stores" does is pretty bad, a thin layer of bubble wrap and into a box with a lot of room to move. Grinders are heavy and need to be packed SOLIDLY in the box with no room to move, padded on all sides. I have shipped several grinders Xcountry and had NO issues even with handling that split the boxes open (I wrap with shipping tape around EVERY edge, at least 3 layers of tape in 6 directions AND the center of the box two ways. I use a whole role of tape for each grinder shipped. You can NOT over pack heavy items.
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bossman Senior Member Joined: 10 Dec 2013 Posts: 130 Location: Iowa Expertise: I love coffee
Grinder: Encore Drip: Brazen Plus Roaster: Soon I hope
Posted Wed May 14, 2014, 2:00pm Subject: Re: Red Mini Vivaldi II & Pro M Espresso grinder
I had no issues with shots, I was pulling very good and great tasting shots. This combo made learning shots very easy. I am just not using it. I loved it for a couple of weeks, then just stopped using it, and started brewing drip instead. I think I like espresso a lot, but not everyday or often enough to justify the machine. I was going days without using it, so between shots I was having to empty the water tank and clean it, fill it again, and then start my shot. Also the coffee I would pull out of the freezer would go stale before I could use it, even with just 4oz jars. I even kept the machine on 24/7 to make it easier to use it more, to no avail. For sure a little laziness is to blame as well.
I think I am going to get a bonavita and a good brew grinder and call it good.
This is a great combo here, and someone that likes espresso often will be very happy with it.
lockman Senior Member Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 15 Location: Oakland Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Wed May 14, 2014, 8:48pm Subject: Re: Red Mini Vivaldi II & Pro M Espresso grinder
Both grinders I have purchased 2cd hand were damaged in the shipping process. First one, a Cimbali Max was not too bad. Little plastic breakage, but, the Mahlkonig K30 had one of the motor supports badly bent (and internal damage due to that) even though it had layers and layers of bubble wrap but not the stock box. The design of the grinder is such that without removing the motor or packing with foam fill packets the effect of gravity can be devastating. Lot of weight on those little threaded rods.
Posted Fri May 16, 2014, 12:05am Subject: Re: Red Mini Vivaldi II & Pro M Espresso grinder
Try picking up a Technivorm and smart grinder. I got a refurbished technivorm off eBay as well as others from this forum for a very good price. I use it daily for drip and couldnt be happier. My various espresso machines and grinders i only use when time permits.
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