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Posted Sun May 13, 2012, 1:53pm
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MarkPrince Said:

...... or various types of porn (camera porn, espresso porn......)

Posted May 13, 2012 link

Hahah. Just re-read this. Nice
So could I submit a thread for S&M espresso porn involving a naked portafilter, packet of cafiza, and a heat gun? Not to thread drift too much .... haha
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Posted Sun May 13, 2012, 2:00pm
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diggi Said:

Do you know who you're talking to?.... book 'em.

Posted May 13, 2012 link

If he's an illogical person who assumes bad intentions where there are none, then that will carry through to other parts of his life, not just a website.
If instead he's a level-headed person who possesses empathy, then he will use this opportunity to validate his kindness and grow.
So far the former seems to be the case alas. Not everyone can rise to small challenges.
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Posted Sun May 13, 2012, 3:57pm
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Yar Said:

Again, you're assuming intent where there is none. That's illogical. Logic-based debate is not the same as trolling. I recommend you take an introductory course in Logic sometime.

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Well, since philosophy (particularly theology) is a great enjoyment of mine, and I haven't been in a good debate in a while, I'll respectfully engage in logic-based debate with you. I'll make a few claims to set the premise:
  • Such a cafe is advertising employees rather than product, and they must be doing this for a reason
  • Any focus other than the coffee lessens the coffee; that's why most of the great cafe's serve only coffee or outsource to local businesses for food
  • Hiring baristas strictly for looks harms the coffee quality due to inadequate preparation; such an establishment does so. Don't believe me? What would happen if I applied there?

Yar Said:

Just because a business has attractive women, that doesn't mean their coffee is bad. That's no more logical than saying that if a person wears a hoodie, they're a thief.

Posted May 13, 2012 link

What's that you said about Starbucks baristas in your first post? Anyway, I don't like straw men arguments in philosophy; they are erroneous. Personifying the advertisements of a business into a poor stereotype has nothing to do with the topic at hand. If I drive by a cafe advertising caramel spice lattes I suspect that their coffee is inferior; similarly, when I see a drive through advertising bikini baristas, I suspect that their coffee is inferior. If you want to parse over the reasoning behind that I'm game.

Finally, as conversation on a board meant for the betterment of espresso and coffee, the topic of barista clothing does not fit in. The amount of clothing one wears will not affect a shot of espresso. Mark Prince is your superior both as a moderator and coffee expert, and at minimum this should demand respect.

The issue at hand is also one of ethics, and the argument for the less ethical "objectifying of women" as Mark put it is attempting to raise disagreement (unless you actually hold to the possibility of clothing ratio affecting shot quality?). In my opinion, that constitutes as trolling.

 
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Posted Sun May 13, 2012, 6:01pm
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:)

I'm following Wayne's post signature advice at this point and will not feed the trolls anymore. My apologies for engaging.

 
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Posted Sun May 13, 2012, 8:28pm
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I've just issued Yar a 24 hour "break" from the forums based on his personal attack against another person's religion and choice in such. Our forum and website rules state you cannot attack someone (or criticise some one) based on their sex, colour, creed, or religion. I've also deleted the posts involved. I have not issued a strike against his account at this time, but if Yar comes back, I suggest he take a moment to

a) read our terms and conditions: "CoffeeGeek Terms and Conditions"
b) read our forum FAQ on participation: "CoffeeGeek Forums FAQ"

Also a note to Yar or anyone else: this matter (belittling someone's choice in religion, race, sex or creed) is not tolerated, and I will not debate in semantics about the matter.

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Posted Mon May 21, 2012, 9:29am
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AMEN, Mark!

I thought this thread might be amusing...maybe a link to a photo or something really coffee related, but alas...the thread is garbage!

 
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