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Posted Fri Mar 22, 2013, 5:06am
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LOL, I didn't check the time stamps :O
it would have been much more clear to me then, sorry, I did not intend to cast false impressions. ;D

 
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Posted Sat Mar 23, 2013, 12:53pm
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First off, I'd like to sincerely thank everyone who replied. You owe me nothing yet you have taken time out to respond to me. I wasn't expecting much, if anything and I got so much more. I'm going to try to sort through these responses. I have read through everything almost twice and it's good food for thought.

calblacksmith Said:

Posted March 20, 2013 link

I think getting a response from a "third party" or more objective folks would give me more clarity on my issue and it did. But you are certainly right. I am taking into considering those closest to me.

I have considered community college. It's unfortunate--those around me like friends, family, teachers create a negative stigma to CC. Even more so for me--they expected me to attend Ivy league. I don't see it but I think CC would inadvertently take a toll on my attitude for school. I think if I choose college I would stick with the one lined up and do the whole experience. Attending the same school for four years, living in that town, etc.

I am definitely bothered by the cost of the first year, especially if it is mostly spent "figuring myself out" and so I suppose I must, sooner than later, set my goals and jump in.

Thank you for the response (especially being the first one to).

CheapBastid Said:

Posted March 20, 2013 link

This is very in line with my older brother's concern--wasting time. I can't say I've wrapped my head around time. I think I've decided if I cannot make a serious plan that I will put my deposit in.

I have submitted several job applications, even apprenticeships at different cafes/roasteries. The response is lukewarm so far, but I'll see.

Thank you!

diggi Said:

Posted March 21, 2013 link

I rewrote that line about three times before I posted it and I STILL felt strange posting it. I had a feeling someone would interpret that as "Please think for me". I really meant "give me food for thought".

Anyways, very few give me kind of response you did. You remind me that I am letting myself be spoiled (and you're right). This makes me seriously rethink my goals in taking a gap year. I really appreciate you being blunt about the subject matter. I think it would be more meaningful to do both at the same time (that is, college and "figuring myself out").

Thank you for the response, diggi.

Buckley Said:

Posted March 21, 2013 link

This is another issue my older brother raised with me. "What will you have to say for youself after that year? Make it worthwhile." And as above, I think if I cannot outline a serious plan to make it worthwhile, I'll just put my deposit in.

The college I have chosen (if I go) is a private liberal arts college. There are no graduate students and (I expect) the student-teacher interaction is supposed to be tremendous. This is critical to me. And it's a huge reason why I would even decide to go. People really do inspire me and maybe being at that college will prove effective for me.

I have told people that I would seriously put a map up and throw a dart and wherever that dart landed I would buy a ticket (less the ocean). But you're right--I have been browsing various travel/volunteer sites and can't honestly say anything sounds entirely more interesting to me (at this point) than the study abroad offerings from the college I am interested in.

If you're referring to the Community College Vista, then I believe it is. But staying in town is something I don't see myself doing in any scenario.

People who inspire me (rockstars, coffee faces, technology faces, actors) vs those that "should" (doctors, lawyers, engineers) probably isn't healthy for me to think about. I see myself going either way (risky path like artist/business owner or secure professional).

Why have I come to coffeegeek? Let's be honest--where else could I have asked this question one time and in less than a week gotten almost 250 views and a dozen well written and thought out responses (from people who share the same interests as me!)? You guys are really great. Online forums have become a big thing for me over the years. When I got into wetshaving, I joined Badger and Blade (shaving forum) and it did tremendous things for me. I learned so much from the older guys. Driving, job advice, politics, business, communication, shaving (duh), and COFFEE! The response from these forums towards me (being younger and interested in the same things) is really great. I enjoy as much talking to people of my generations as those older. Some of my friends think it's ridiculous how much I like their parents.

Thank you for the response!

toyman Said:

Posted March 21, 2013 link

What you say is something I have been thinking long and hard about. I ask myself what I would think and do if I should just crash and burn and having little left to work with. What you say is the same thing my family tells me--do college then ask questions. High school was very long for me. I switched schools three times. I first attended a pretty difficult magnet school then transferred to an even more difficult high-school-college program and then transferred to a regular high school. I think my attitude stems from all the change I experienced during high school but I can't lie when I feel that had I stayed at any one school all four years that I would have actually thoroughly enjoyed myself.

Thank you for the response, toyman!

calblacksmith Said:

Posted March 21, 2013 link

I fear switching schools (as I explain above) because I REALLY enjoy the friend base you can develop and the relationships you build. There's a decent community sense in me that I require to succeed. If I choose school, my selection would have to be where I see myself all four years.

I'm curious--what courses did you take and what did your major/minor end up being on paper?

The "doing something that has a moving path" statement has really got me thinking. I really don't want to do the same thing forever and this is something I fear about school--getting a job that hinders my growth. I don't think in terms of college giving me a headstart on a moving path, but you're right. That's where I must make the distinction and choice.

I told my friends about the "professional student" thing and it got us thinking. We laughed first but realized it was a path we were on unless we decided when to get off the bus.

Thank you for the response.

sundriver Said:

Posted March 21, 2013 link

Haha my physics teacher tells me about his college coffee nightmare stories. I roast his coffee biweekly now.

You know, every time someone tells me I'm ahead of the game, I wish I wasn't. That would mean that I still had time to get to where I am now, because now I feel I'm at a standstill--waiting for everyone to catch up to see what we do next.

I think instead of a job this summer I will enroll in random classes of interest and see what makes something inside of me go off. Oddly enough there are so many things I enjoy that I'm trying to see the value in as a career or other. I also believe in making the distinction between work and play but that's a balance I'm still trying to figure out.

Thank you for taking the time to type that out. And thank you again for reminding me that I'm not alone. I belong to a family that's in all different stages of their life and it OFTEN feels like I'm alone.

emradguy Said:

Posted March 21, 2013 link

Wow. I really enjoyed reading your story. It's amazing how opposite it is in my house. My Dad is actually a doctor and I'm rebellious to medicine. My siblings are too and I think it really bugs my parents. Oh well.

How did you decide medicine was for you? It sounds like it came out of nowhere. It sounds like I'm a bit like you. I really like learning but I know I can't do it forever (at least without a career plan). I can tell you I don't want to stop going to school (insert career-me at 40-50 still taking classes) but obviously I need an income and stability first.

Oh I LOVE coffee! I love every stage--green growing to brewed throwing (away). I have had the chance to attend a "coffee grower" event and visit some neat cafes. I see myself in all that but most of it is fogged by my upbringing and exposure. But many of my hobbies come to pass (atleast the LEVEL of interest/obsession). PC building, woodworking, urban farming, wetshaving, etc. all just kinda died off. I still enjoy all of them, but not the same level as the peak. But maybe I don't always need to be obsessed with coffee to make a career out of it. Just interested forever.

Thank you for the response and interesting story. I am still interested to hear about you and medicine and the story behind it.

Buckley Said:

Posted March 22, 2013 link

Yes the responses have been very very helpful. Like I said, I wasn't expecting this many (especially good) responses and as detailed. I am very grateful for everyone taking the time to type these responses. Of course I am not done with my journey. I don't even think I've started. If you have anything else to say, I'd love to hear it.

Thanks all again.
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Posted Sat Mar 23, 2013, 1:17pm
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Absolutely first rate, thoughtful, awesome job by everyone.
I'm proud and honored to call all of you FRIEND.

To our OP, I'd say when possible, do what you love, not what is expedient. You don't want to be one of those who, 30 years down the road saying "if only."

 
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Posted Sat Mar 23, 2013, 1:19pm
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I'd be more than happy to tell you the story, but not on the public forum (you'll see why when I get the chance to send you a pm).  In short, it's something I was interested in, but didn't think it was worth pursuing...and then I sort of fell into it.

 
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Posted Sat Mar 23, 2013, 3:16pm
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IMAWriter Said:

To our OP, I'd say when possible, do what you love, not what is expedient. You don't want to be one of those who, 30 years down the road saying "if only."

Posted March 23, 2013 link

I have heard this many times. "Do what you love". You'd think it'd get through by now. It's interesting--I think I hear it from everyone but my parents and maybe that's where the problem is. One day though.. I will tell it to someone else and mean it.

Thank you.

emradguy Said:

I'd be more than happy to tell you the story, but not on the public forum (you'll see why when I get the chance to send you a pm).  In short, it's something I was interested in, but didn't think it was worth pursuing...and then I sort of fell into it.

Posted March 23, 2013 link

Yes that might be a better idea. I'm sorry for not suggesting that. I can't seem to figure out the private messaging system of this site. It's not as obvious as others I use...
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Posted Sat Mar 23, 2013, 4:14pm
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Good to see your thoughtful replies. Have you thought about speaking with a career councillor or doing some career testing?  I don't know the buzzwords for this sort of thing, but there are certainly many tools you can use to explore your interests/values/goals and help get you thinking. You don't need to pick you dream job now, but as you seem well aware, it is much easier to work hard if you have a goal to keep you focused.  As long as you set a goal and are making positive steps toward it, you won't be wasting any time.  You may change that goal many times and that is ok.
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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 12:55am
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My cousin Luke says a bag of weed, a couple chicks, and a three night stay out of town hanging out at a Waffle House = Summer in Amsterdam, just saying...

 
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