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Posted Mon Sep 20, 2004, 4:53am
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Just to let y'all know that the cups pictured are Maxwell Williams brand and quite widely available.  I paid $3.50 per cup/saucer pair (they won't sell just the cups!) at Matchbox.

They look like the iconic illy cups, but are lighter - they weigh ~100g, which is still pretty good.  The handles are also different; whereas the illy cups just have the small ring, the MW cups have a slightly larger handle that is scalloped in.  They hold ~65-70mL and are a fantastic shape for macchiato art (scroll down).

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Posted Mon Sep 20, 2004, 5:16am
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Good find. Any idea if Maxwell Williams make a cappuccino sized version?
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Posted Mon Sep 20, 2004, 5:29am
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mooshu
can you pick up some more?
and send it up to sydney?
ill love you long time :)

 
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Posted Mon Sep 20, 2004, 4:28pm
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Heck, are these a knock-off or what?  I guess if they're selling in AU, they're probably selling in NZ as well.  

Would be interesting to see what they were like, though I've got too many illy cups that I don't use anyway.  

Curious though, I mean, isn't the Matteo Thun cup shape copyrighted or something in some way?  It'd be interesting to see whether they had cap cups, and if they were the same as the illy cap cups.

Strange really :)

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Posted Mon Sep 20, 2004, 4:52pm
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Yeh.......dont bother!
I have purchased them.........they are not ar heavy as the Illy or any of the italian made espresso cups, and hence do not hold the heat as well!

The enamel surfacing is quite poor, and will scratch quite easily. Everyone bags ILLY but wants their cups??????

Anyway back to my story..........after the enamel scours, it stains easily.
Look ok, but are very poor quality.
If you go to Hotel Agencies in Nicholson Street, you buy the same ones for cheaper than the department stores.

The best cups are the Italian made fully ceraminc ones that are used in Caffess in Italy...................dimatasse standard, boil proof.......as I warm my cups with boiling water prior to making espresso....................and are extremely temperature stable due to their weight!

Coffee Company in Carlisle Street Balaclava sells them for $5.00 each, and they will last forever because they are commercial grade.

Sorry....................but Maxwell Williams......................cheap and YUK! But they are ok if you want to fool yourself and your friends. If you want Illy cups, buy them..........the quality difference between the chinese and the Italian materials is incredible, and you will not have to buy any other cups for the rest of your life!
Although I have been accused of being an espresso snob!

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Posted Mon Sep 20, 2004, 5:30pm
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jackandthebean Said:

mooshu
can you pick up some more?
and send it up to sydney?
ill love you long time :)

Posted September 20, 2004 link

Why would you want to go to the bother of shipping Maxwell & Williams stuff up from Melbourne? There are lots of Sydney places that sell it.

Victoria's Basement, Peters of Kensington, Reject China Ship Birkenhead Pt, possibly McCarthy's at Stanmore as well.

BTW places like McCarthy's, Crocker's in Auburn and Goldstein near Toby's Estate are good places to browse. Which explains why I've got a whole drawer full of individual espresso cups, all different ;)

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Posted Mon Sep 20, 2004, 5:49pm
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I don't think I've ever purchased any Maxwell & Williams stuff.  And really, come to think of it, if I did buy any, I probably wouldn't use them.  I have a few sets of Ancap espresso cups stuff which sit in their boxes, as well as illy stuff.  

I tend to use IPA Milano for flat whites, ACF Tulip shaped cups for macchiato type stuff, then illy cups for espresso if I ever drink it.  All these cups have been really excellent, especially with their heft, and heat retentiveness.

Hmm, I can't quite remember the topic of this post now!  :|

I mean, when you think about it though, how many cups do you own, as opposed to how many you use?  I can probably say I have over a hundred cups (probably closer to 150), and actually only use about...  hmm, 15-20 at most?

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Posted Mon Sep 20, 2004, 8:01pm
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fad Said:

Why would you want to go to the bother of shipping Maxwell & Williams stuff up from Melbourne? There are lots of Sydney places that sell it.

Victoria's Basement, Peters of Kensington, Reject China Ship Birkenhead Pt, possibly McCarthy's at Stanmore as well.

BTW places like McCarthy's, Crocker's in Auburn and Goldstein near Toby's Estate are good places to browse. Which explains why I've got a whole drawer full of individual espresso cups, all different ;)

Cheers

Paul Haddon
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Posted September 20, 2004 link

been to all of them
couldnt find them, i need decent cups as well (not saying they are but is there somewhere i can get commercial quality IE heavy..)
mmmmmm

 
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Posted Mon Sep 20, 2004, 8:42pm
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A lot of the cafes in NZ use ACF cups.  Not sure what they use in AU, but the ACF stuff is available here, and relatively cheaply.  They're pretty solid, and are really commercial grade cups.  My IPA cups are probably a bit more sturdy than they are, but definitely, ACF are very good for the price.  I think anyhow.

What are the common cups used in AU?
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Posted Mon Sep 20, 2004, 10:24pm
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Yann Said:

I tend to use IPA Milano for flat whites, ACF Tulip shaped cups for macchiato type stuff, then illy cups for espresso if I ever drink it.  All these cups have been really excellent, especially with their heft, and heat retentiveness.
y :)

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I really like the looks of the IPA porcelain cups - Anyone know if/where you can get them in OZ?
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