Our Valued Sponsor
OpinionsConsumer ReviewsGuides and How TosCoffeeGeek ReviewsResourcesForums
consumer product reviews
prosumer / professional espresso machine reviews
ECM Giotto - Paul Kula's Review
Posted: January 4, 2002, 3:54pm
review rating: 7.4
feedback: (8) comments | read | write
Rocket (ECM) Giotto
Where to Buy
Arrow Seattle Coffee Gear
Arrow 1st-line Equipment
 List your business site here.
About "Where to Buy"

More About This Product
Arrow The ECM Giotto has 27 Reviews
Arrow The ECM Giotto has been rated 9.22 overall by our member reviewers
Arrow This product has been in our review database since November 30, 2001.
Arrow ECM Giotto reviews have been viewed 264,107 times (updated hourly).

Quality Reviews
These are some of the best-written reviews for this product, as judged by our members.
Name Ranking
Jay Millar 8.72
Genomic Medicine 8.14
Jeff Cooper 8.14
Chris Sidden 7.87
D Doll 7.85

Previous Review Next Review
Ratings and Stats Overall Rating: 9.4
Manufacturer: ECM Quality: 9
Average Price: $1,300.00 Usability: 10
Price Paid: $1,045.00 Cost vs. Value 9
Where Bought: http://www.all4coffee.com/ Aesthetics 10
Owned for: 1 year Overall 9
Writer's Expertise: I live coffee Would Buy Again: Yes
Similar Items Owned: Saeco Rio Vapore
Bottom Line: I Love My Giotto!!!!
Positive Product Points

Thermal Stability - The E61 group is a 9 pound hunk of brass that acts like a heat sink and circulates water to keep it hot.

Commercial size porta filter and handle.

Recommended by David Schomer of Espresso Vivace in Seattle.  See the following link for his review.  http://www.lucidcafe.com/cafeforum/schomertable22.html

Recovery time is faster than I can work.  It seems the more espresso you make in one session, the better it gets.

Makes great consistent espresso.

It looks incredible in my kitchen.

No mechanical issues after 9 months of use.

Negative Product Points

The boiler heats up in 10 minutes but the E61 group needs at least an hour.  You can leave it on 24/7 but I have it on a timer to come on at 4am.

Hot water comes straight from the 1.9 liter boiler, therefore, there is a limited amount and it slams the heat load.

The fresh water reservoir is only 2.8 liters and if you manage to run it out, it is kind of tricky to get the pump primed again.

Only one pressure gauge for the boiler.

Documents and tamper that came with the machine aren't worth much.

Detailed Commentary

I started making espresso at home in 1995 with a Saeco Rio Vapore, a Braun burr grinder, and Starbucks coffee.  I was perfectly happy in my little espresso world until I took a trip to Seattle.  There I learned what I was truly missing.  So with the bar raised, I brought some Vivace Vita home to try on the Saeco.  After 6 months of frustration, I gave in to the fact that my old equipment just wasn't going to cut it and I was going to have to start saving my pennies for a major purchase.

I bought a Giotto and Mazzer Mini in April of last year and I haven't looked back since.  The Giotto arrived first and I tried making espresso with a Solis 166 grinder.  It worked OK but when the Mazzer arrived the difference was night and day.  In other words, if you are going to spend +$1000 on an espresso machine, don't penny pinch on the grinder.  

The only adjustments I had to make on the Giotto out of the box was to turn down the boiler pressure because I was burning the espresso.  Dialing in the grinder was a challenge but I'll save the details on that for the Mazzer Mini review.

After perfecting my technique at home, I volunteered to make espresso drinks at a benefit my friend was hosting.  I went through 5 pounds of coffee in four hours that night.  Amazingly, it seemed like the more espresso I made, the better it got.  The only time the machine had a hard time keeping up was when someone wanted hot water for tea.  Even then it was only about 30 seconds recovery time.

If you have the desire to make great espresso at home, you can't go wrong with this machine.  However, it doesn't operate itself.  There are lots of variables involved so you will have to do some reading on proper techniques and be prepared for lots of trial and error.  Treat it like a hobby you have a passion for and you will be greatly rewarded.

Good Luck!

Buying Experience

Not a problem.

Previous Review Next Review
Write a Review for this Product
review rating: 7.4
Posted: January 4, 2002, 3:54pm
feedback: (8) comments | read | write
Interactive
Search
Login Password
forgot pw | signup
quickNav
advertisement
sponsorad
Coffee Kids
Help folks who help folks in coffee producing nations.
coffeekids.org
sponsorad
Rancilio Silvia - How to
Step by step guide for easy brewing and steaming with the Rancilio Silvia
www.seattlecoffeegear.com
advertisement
Home | Opinions | Consumer Reviews | Guides & How Tos | CoffeeGeek Reviews | Resources | Forums | Contact Us
CoffeeGeek.com, CoffeeGeek, and Coffee Geek, along with all associated content & images are copyright ©2000-2014 by Mark Prince, all rights reserved, unless otherwise indicated. Content, code, and images may not be reused without permission. Usage of this website signifies agreement with our Terms and Conditions. (0.191876173019)
Privacy Policy | Copyright Info | Terms and Conditions | CoffeeGeek Advertisers | RSS | Find us on Google+