Expensive machine, good coffe, not good cost vs. value, too tricky for beginners, superautomatic = superproblematic
Positive Product Points
if you get the hang of it it and your are a virtuoso in patience you will eventually make great coffee, like me after i spent over 700 bucks!!
Negative Product Points
not good for beginers, watch out, too expensive, too tricky, many many sensors, the tanks are of plastic, though is bulky has good appearance
Detailed Commentary
The machine is quite big, heavy and bulky, it has defaults in all the sensors and many they are, sometimes nothing is wrong and the machine blocks itself, the grinder is a piece of ·"%&/(, we have to continually keep pushing the beans in manually, looks like the grinder expels the beans from drifting in by themselves, the water tank and bean tanks are made of plastic that looks cheap, it scratches and has bad appearance, i would prefer something of glass, though the machine is heavy already a little more won't hurt, it also needs constant descaling. I've had i for 5 plus years and I paid a lot for it. Not good in cost vs. value. The coffee is great and the frother works great. I truly won't encourage a beginner for it has many tricks to it. I would advice to start with something else. I have a friend who has another italian brand, it is not as pretty as mine but performs better.
Buying Experience
I bought this at costco.com, it think they were on "sale" just to get rid of this item. Wouldn't buy from them again.